Silver Persian
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Wow NSW Labor has been completely gutted. How many senior ministers are actually continuing on?...Sartor and Tripodi...
Silver Persian said:Wow NSW Labor has been completely gutted. How many senior ministers are actually continuing on?...Sartor and Tripodi...
Allow me to call absolute bullshit on thatNebuchanezzar said:^Works well for Labor. I was definately gonna vote Liberal next election but now I'm completely undecided.
Yeah, but its not like he could slag him off.Iron said:How was it honest? He described Iemma's resignation as "noble"
I'm sick of hearing about how Rees was a garbage collector and how that somehow shows he's a down to earth, working class bloke.HisNameIsChris said:Rees will be similar to Iemma and he will not gain support with the snob types due to his job as a garbage collector (and I think THAT, at least, is an unfair reason to dislike him since he was just using it to support his way through university).
Educated and reasoned opinion right there. I wish I had a gun.Humglish said:I don't really care about the whole 'new face' of the labor party - they're still shit.
Are you serious?Nebuchanezzar said:But he did it at night to pay for uni. Don't ignore all the facts chum!
True, that. I've heard this before but I didn't realize this as I was writing my comments. But the problem is that the connotations and stereotypes surrounding the job make the snobs think 'peasant' and as you said, other admire him for being "down to earth" and "working class bloke".Graney said:I'm sick of hearing about how Rees was a garbage collector and how that somehow shows he's a down to earth, working class bloke.
Garbage collectors facts:
-They get payed very well.
-It's extremely hard to get into, you pretty much have to know someone in the industry- for many of the guys working it, it's a job for life. The guys who do it love it.
The party spin it as though it's somehow a virtue for him to have done the dirty work, it's playing on the stereotype that noone would want to be a garbo, but the fact is he had a well paid and extremely desireable job for an undergrad.
It's nothing to admire him for.
Most uni students have part-time jobs. His was very well paid and with great hours for a student. He's nothing special for it.Nebuchanezzar said:well it shows that he is a hard working bloke who's 'paid his dues' and whatever, no?
But what type of garbage collector? Truck driver? Yeah, easy I guess. Bin guy who takes trash from cans to dumpsters? Not pleasant.Graney said:I don't like the dishonest way they're playing on the perception that being a garbage collector is a bad job. I wish I had the opportunity to become a garbage collector.
Well maybe you should? What choo got planned tonight that's so important, comrade?Humglish said:I'm not going to spent half an hour writing an essay as to why labor is shit on a freaking forum. But whoever wrote that article got paid to do it. Big difference.
It's called HECS/HELP.Nebuchanezzar said:What I'm hearing is that Rees worked long hours at night to fund his study/life during the day.
Who's to say that?Nebuchanezzar said:^I doubt, VERY MUCH, that most uni students work at night to fund their education. I believe that most uni students come from wealthy/moderately well-off families that mostly support their children through uni (like myself).
I can't tell from the Wikipedia article on him (nor can I spare the time to properly research it), but Rees may have moved out during/before university. If so, he wouldn't have been able to support himself just with the government assistance.Graney said:It's called HECS/HELP.