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But Israel have the earliest religious claim to the land (in the old testament), whereas the Palestinians only got their claim thousands of years later.
You see in Islam, we believe our religion is just a follow up of the others (meaning judaism adn chrisitnaity)...the other prophets only came due to the others corrupting and altering gods message given to them. So therefore, the claim the jews have ot the land, the convenant that they made with god would therefor be broken, otherwise their would only be judaism and there would have been no need for anymore prophets. And god said if you break the covanent then you would not get the land given to you, and you would struggle where ever you went. So therefore, in keeping iwth Islam, and how it came to be adn why more prophets came, you can say jews somewhere along the line broke their covenant, and then more prophets, yada yada yada.....so christianity and judaism were correct once, but not now, now it is Islam...you understand?withoutaface said:But Israel have the earliest religious claim to the land (in the old testament), whereas the Palestinians only got their claim thousands of years later.
ha ha ha. i never saw the funny side of it, but i dont need to repeat what googooloo said now, should i?TerrbleSpellor said:ha ha ha. It will be interesting to see what he says to this.
So are you pagan then? Muhammad(PBUH) came along do to this, alteration, in the religion. What I just talked about.SashatheMan said:pagans believed in many gods, and christianity stole stuff from past pagan religions. that means originally pagans were right about many gods. How can many gods turn into one.
Under your view system it would, but not under the Jewish one. There is no way to determine which is more valid to an impartial observer, and hence the earlier claim takes precedence.googooloo said:You see in Islam, we believe our religion is just a follow up of the others (meaning judaism adn chrisitnaity)...the other prophets only came due to the others corrupting and altering gods message given to them. So therefore, the claim the jews have ot the land, the convenant that they made with god would therefor be broken, otherwise their would only be judaism and there would have been no need for anymore prophets. And god said if you break the covanent then you would not get the land given to you, and you would struggle where ever you went. So therefore, in keeping iwth Islam, and how it came to be adn why more prophets came, you can say jews somewhere along the line broke their covenant, and then more prophets, yada yada yada.....so christianity and judaism were correct once, but not now, now it is Islam...you understand?
So therefore, they no longer have a claim on thier own. Who is there now, the palastinians, have the claim now. therefore the sheik is correct in syaing that if israel is oppressing palastinians then they have the right ot rise up, and the only way to them happens to be through suicide bombing. I still don't agree, I'd never do it that's for sure!
In a perfect world, we wouldn't have needed all the prophets we did, but if the world became perfect, everyone should have continued through to ISlam. That is it. And there sin't anymore..ba bum bum bum1 (madeline animation show tune)
This is wrongwithoutaface said:But Israel have the earliest religious claim to the land (in the old testament), whereas the Palestinians only got their claim thousands of years later.
No, the existing one takes precedencewithoutaface said:Under your view system it would, but not under the Jewish one. There is no way to determine which is more valid to an impartial observer, and hence the earlier claim takes precedence.
We belive Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet, so hence that prophet will be invalidGay Captain said:Googooo... etc. :
So what if another prophet came, thereby rendering Islam invalid? What would you think of that?
Not true what-so-ever.They didn't want them
Completely wrong, Goliath was a Phillistine, who has no link to the Palestinians, and the Palestinian national identity was formed well after the Muslims invaded the Jews land in ~900AD.Jordan.J said:This is wrong
Goliath was Palestinian in the story of David and Goliath
Palestinians have always been there and never left
If you add up all the years the Palestinians and Jews have settled in that land, the Jews will be only have a few hundred years while the Palestinian will have thousands of years
so your saying that the previous prophets when they preached, basicly said, "look we are not the final prophets , and someone better then us will come and be more correct then what we told man kind?"googooloo said:It is not possible since there are no more prophets, if someone claimed to be so he would be false.
they never said that they were the last prophets, muhammad did. and at the time the respective religions WERE correct. it was until they became corrupted that a new prophet would have been sent down to correct the people.SashatheMan said:so your saying that the previous prophets when they preached, basicly said, "look we are not the final prophets , and someone better then us will come and be more correct then what we told man kind?"
or what makes muhammad the final prophet? each pervious one thought they were correct, it must only mean that someone easily can take muhammads job as the next prophet
extremists and suicide bombers are the result of a corrupted islamic religion. therefore a new prophet is needed, someone who can provide revelations that are not prone to interpretations of people martyring themselves in shopping malls.veterandoggy said:they never said that they were the last prophets, muhammad did. and at the time the respective religions WERE correct. it was until they became corrupted that a new prophet would have been sent down to correct the people.
... and hence the appearance of mahdi is ever more likely.SashatheMan said:extremists and suicide bombers are the result of a corrupted islamic religion. therefore a new prophet is needed, someone who can provide revelations that are not prone to interpretations of people martyring themselves in shopping malls.
No hence your claim of muhammad being the final prophet is incorrect, and its just as likely for soemone else to say they are the next true prophetveterandoggy said:... and hence the appearance of mahdi is ever more likely.