PwarYuex said:Judging by his excellent marks and enjoyment of uni thus far, I don't think he's going to have a rude awakening.
Whilst I agree that negative pressure shouldn't be put on children, being too lenient, as Stas says, does have a really bad effect.
Sometimes, yes.Not-That-Bright said:I do not understand the argument that parents pressuring their kids to work will somehow produce lower results, what? do you think the kids will purposely rebel?
I highly doubt that. Unless you somehow hung out with very mature people who could work well on their own, that's clearly not true.syd17 said:whose parents let them do whatever they wanted in yr 12 etc and still wound up with 98
That's exactly right.Not-That-Bright said:There are some people (very few) who work well on their own and can put out great work without outside pressure, however even these people will not be disadvantaged by outside pressure.
Maybe syd17 interprets 'pressure children' in the very bad way that asian parents are notorious for doing. I think the balance between parents 'pushing' their children to suceed and parents forcing children to live through hell.I do not understand the argument that parents pressuring their kids to work will somehow produce lower results, what? do you think the kids will purposely rebel?
tis true, and btw, my parents never pushed me to excel so long as i gave my best coz they trusted my abilities, and i still got 90+ for my UAI, and even if i got 60+, they wouldve been stokedPwarYuex said:I highly doubt that. Unless you somehow hung out with very mature people who could work well on their own, that's clearly not true.
I consider myself very able of independent learning, yet my mum pushed me many times during the HSC. At the time, she seemed like she was being a bitch, but with 20/20 hindsight, she definitely helped.
That's exactly right.
Maybe syd17 interprets 'pressure children' in the very bad way that asian parents are notorious for doing. I think the balance between parents 'pushing' their children to suceed and parents forcing children to live through hell.
A very good post.Lundy said:To whoever said 'parents should push their child', I disagree. It adds a ton of extra stress that a child doing their HSC simply doesn't need.
If you needed to be pushed by your parents to work hard, then maybe you really weren't mature enough to be undertaking the HSC this year. I come from a very laid back family, my parents are very supportive but they have never tried to push me. The 'always try your best, and we'll be proud of you regardless' mentality might be cliche, but it's what I've grown up with, and I was an above average student all through my schooling, regularly topping classes and winning various academic awards. The thing is, I was perceptive enough to understand I couldn't by any means skate through the HSC if I wanted a high UAI and entrance to university. So I worked hard. For myself, not my parents. I needed an 86, I got a 93.65. If my parents had pushed harder would I have gotten a higher UAI? sure, maybe. But I was extremely proud of my effort, because it was entirely my own.
Your parents won't be there your whole life to be standing behind you, pushing you to get things done. You need to learn to stand on your own two feet and show some initiative. If you want something badly enough, you can achieve it on your own merits.
And lastly, there's much more to life than just grades. I hope all your parents understand this.
Ah, sorry? I thought that Lundy was more than clear in saying that the drive should come from within and that the pushing of a child may not be as helpful as many parents believe.Not-That-Bright said:I don't see how lundy qualifies her first statement with what she goes on to say, unless the final paragraph there is meant to say that parents should not push their kids, and if their kids do fail, it's a lesson they have to learn?
Probably a good method, for all the budding parents out there, is to instill values within the child so that they push themselves. There are kids that are pushed by their parents and then there are students that push themselves. The kids out there that push themselves are, IMO, in a better position.Generator said:Hmmm. I think that Lundy's post is best read with one of iamaware's in mind. Pushing a child to a considerable degree may not be helpful, but a parent should have done all that they can to instill within their child the proper mindset with which to tackle life (both school and beyond).