• Want to help us with this year's BoS Trials?
    Let us know before 30 June. See this thread for details
  • Looking for HSC notes and resources?
    Check out our Notes & Resources page

Preliminary mathematics marathon (2 Viewers)

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
Use the trapazodial rule with 4 function values to estimate the volume when the region between y= 1 +lnx, the x axis and the lines x=2 and x=5 , is rotated about the x axis
I don't get it.

Are you meant to find the area first to find the volume? Because the area doesn't look very helpful...
 

random-1005

Banned
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
609
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
I don't get it.

Are you meant to find the area first to find the volume? Because the area doesn't look very helpful...
you do the normal thing, ie V= pi integral y^2 dx

V= pi integral (1 +ln(x)) ^2 dx

then use trapazodial rule to find integral of (1 +ln(x) ) ^2 then multiply answer by pie, also if i put y=1+sin(x) {or any trig function}, you would need to use RADIANS, a common mistake is to use degrees, thats what most people dont know is that the trapazodial/ simpsons rule doesnt find the "area" so to speak, it finds the integral

ie

V= pi/2 * [ ( (1+ln(2))^2 + (1+ln(5) )^2 +2( (1+ln(3))^2 +(1+ln(4))^2) ) ]

whatever that evaluates to, provided i have remembered trapazodial rule correctly = h/2 ( first +last +2(others))
 
Last edited:

random-1005

Banned
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
609
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
Which book gives the shortcut for the trapeziodal rule?
One of my books has the simpsons rule one but not the trap :(

i dnt think the one i had the trapazodial rule either , see last post for the formula, i never remembered the formula from the book, teacher just said, this is a way , remember it and you will be ok, if u try to do simpsons rule the way it taught in the books you will make a mistake
 

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
i dnt think the one i had the trapazodial rule either , see last post for the formula, i never remembered the formula from the book, teacher just said, this is a way , remember it and you will be ok, if u try to do simpsons rule the way it taught in the books you will make a mistake
You mean the long way? Yea it's tedious. Espec. for more than 3 values
 

random-1005

Banned
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
609
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
NEW QUESTION:

Find the co ordinates of the focus, vertex and equation of the directrix of the parabola :

(y+2)^2 = -4(2x+1)
 
Last edited:

random-1005

Banned
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
609
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
^^

Vertex (-0.5, -2)
Focus (-2.5, -2)
Directrix: x=1.5

correct

thats like as exciting as prelim questions get, and thats not exciting, just full of tricks, cant think of any good questions to put up that are still in prelim
 
Joined
Dec 31, 2009
Messages
4,741
Location
sarajevo
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Uni Grad
2017
New Question:

A swimmer is directly 1000 m out in the ocean from point A on the beach, the swimmer has to get to point B which is on the beach 5000 m away from point A. The swimmer can swim at 2 m/s and walk on the beach at 2.5 m/s, at which point from point A does the swimmer get out of the water and start walking for the quickest journey?
 

random-1005

Banned
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
609
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
New Question:

A swimmer is directly 1000 m out in the ocean from point A on the beach, the swimmer has to get to point B which is on the beach 5000 m away from point A. The swimmer can swim at 2 m/s and walk on the beach at 2.5 m/s, at which point from point A does the swimmer get out of the water and start walking for the quickest journey?

lol, this is exactly like the max/min question they had in last yrs 2 unit
 

random-1005

Banned
Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
609
Gender
Male
HSC
2009
I'm finding it hard to interpret the question :S

look at the picture given with last yrs 2unit hsc Q9 b, its very similar , the distance between the person and the point on the shore is the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle plus a line along the shore
 
Last edited:

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
look at the picture given with last yrs 2unit hsc Q9 b, its very similar , the distance between the person and the point on the shore is the hypotenuse of a right angled triangle plus a line along the shore
That helps heaps. My point B was like a 5km radius.

In 9b) i-iv are easy..
Not sure on v though. I'm sure this part is similar to the question above.
 

hscishard

Active Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
2,033
Location
study room...maybe
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
New Question:

A swimmer is directly 1000 m out in the ocean from point A on the beach, the swimmer has to get to point B which is on the beach 5000 m away from point A. The swimmer can swim at 2 m/s and walk on the beach at 2.5 m/s, at which point from point A does the swimmer get out of the water and start walking for the quickest journey?
I got it. It's 2km, 2000m
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 2)

Top