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relationships with other races: WHY NOT? (3 Viewers)

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I'd like to put something out there.

There is no such things as different races among humans.

There is no Arab, or Black, or white, or Latino, or Asian, or Slavic race... there is the Human race and that is it.

End of story.

To me "relationships with a other race" makes me thinking of interspecies relationships... and dating your dog is kinda wrong.

Thinking of people as other races is the basis of Racism. And there has been a significant push in recent years (by people like Edward James Olmos and the likes) to even remove the term from the UN charter altogether.

Just shut up. You sound like Hitler spouting your one race shit. As Jee said, diversity is something to be celebrated and embraced.
 

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Just shut up. You sound like Hitler spouting your one race shit. As Jee said, diversity is something to be celebrated and embraced.
Yes our diversity is something to be celebrated but not in this immature society we live in nowadays where racism and stereotyping is present in every corner. He makes a good point.
 

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With no one besides the Jews... OH SNAAAPPP !
Now the Arabs are gonna kill me...
Jews are usually either white or arab.

I do believe it leaves us with the pacific islanders.

what an outrage etc ;)
 

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Yes our diversity is something to be celebrated but not in this immature society we live in nowadays where racism and stereotyping is present in every corner. He makes a good point.
What? So your going to yield to idiots and racism and obliterate peoples culture? Do you have any idea what the eradication of race would do? The Aboriginals are in the position they are in now because someone thought it might be a bright idea to get rid of their race. The answer is to eradicate discrimination, not race.
 

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No way, I was just simply saying that yes, you should cheerish our diversity but some people are unable/refuse to do so due to the racism and stereotyping they have to put up with. I'm not trying to imply that we should have just one single major race, that would be an epic fail for humanity.
 

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No way, I was just simply saying that yes, you should cheerish our diversity but some people are unable/refuse to do so due to the racism and stereotyping they have to put up with. I'm not trying to imply that we should have just one single major race, that would be an epic fail for humanity.
that is, however, what Teclis was implying, that the idea of race shouldn't even exist, because we're 'all one race'. And you agreed.
 

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No way, I was just simply saying that yes, you should cheerish our diversity but some people are unable/refuse to do so due to the racism and stereotyping they have to put up with. I'm not trying to imply that we should have just one single major race, that would be an epic fail for humanity.
Well what on earth are you implying? Disregarding race is not celebrating diversity, embracing it is.
 

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straight up could never be with an asian due to cullture differences. would need to be a race close to mine using hofstede's 5 dimensional model.


" Culture is more often a source of conflict than of synergy. Cultural differences are a nuisance at best and often a disaster."
Prof. Geert Hofstede, Emeritus Professor, Maastricht University.
 

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Lol you guys have me confused right now.
I think it's cause I perceived Teclis in a different manner...

I'd like to put something out there.

There is no such things as different races among humans.

There is no Arab, or Black, or white, or Latino, or Asian, or Slavic race... there is the Human race and that is it.

End of story.

To me "relationships with a other race" makes me thinking of interspecies relationships... and dating your dog is kinda wrong.

Thinking of people as other races is the basis of Racism. And there has been a significant push in recent years (by people like Edward James Olmos and the likes) to even remove the term from the UN charter altogether.
As he said, we are all 'humans' whether we're Asian to Caucasian - which I agree.
But you presented the notion of obliterating races, in which I disagree.
What I was saying is that - as I said - some people are derogatory towards their own race thanks to the racism in today's society thus they tend to conform to the status quo by rejecting their race.
 

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straight up could never be with an asian due to cullture differences. would need to be a race close to mine using hofstede's 5 dimensional model.


" Culture is more often a source of conflict than of synergy. Cultural differences are a nuisance at best and often a disaster."
Prof. Geert Hofstede, Emeritus Professor, Maastricht University.
Which would be? [wouild google but I want it in simple terms. EXTREMELY simple terms >.>]
 

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There's a difference between embracing cultural and ethnic diversity and embracing difference in race.

The second one is much more dangerous.

Ethnic: pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like.

And you're an idiot. Hitler was all about the fact that there were DIFFERENT races. The Jews and Slavic's were inferior and should be erased so that Humanity's STRONG race, the Blue Eyed, White haired Aryan race could spread across the world...:mad1:

The term different races actually carries the connotations that we evolved/were created seperately as wholly unique creatures. That the African People evolved completely seperately to the European people... and that their evolution was inferior to that of Europe's, so Europe was obliged to go and "help" the mentally inferior African Black "race" become civilised...

Race is the basis for the justification for slavery, for the justification of racism...

So why not eliminate the problem at the source. You can have amazing ethnic cultural diversity without the term "race"
 

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There's a difference between embracing cultural and ethnic diversity and embracing difference in race.

The second one is much more dangerous.

Ethnic: pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like.

And you're an idiot. Hitler was all about the fact that there were DIFFERENT races. The Jews and Slavic's were inferior and should be erased so that Humanity's STRONG race, the Blue Eyed, White haired Aryan race could spread across the world...:mad1:

The term different races actually carries the connotations that we evolved/were created seperately as wholly unique creatures. That the African People evolved completely seperately to the European people... and that their evolution was inferior to that of Europe's, so Europe was obliged to go and "help" the mentally inferior African Black "race" become civilised...

Race is the basis for the justification for slavery, for the justification of racism...

So why not eliminate the problem at the source. You can have amazing ethnic cultural diversity without the term "race"
whether you want to admit it or not, there IS a difference in races. Like I already said, equal =/= identical. This difference should be celebrated, accepted, respected. Not ignored. Ignoring the difference between races, the fundamental differences that make an Asian and a Black or a White and an Arab different... is nothing but dangerous and leads to assimilation.
 

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Which would be? [wouild google but I want it in simple terms. EXTREMELY simple terms >.>]


  • Low vs. high power distance - This dimension measures how much the less powerful members of institutions and organizations expect and accept that power is distributed unequally. In cultures with low power distance (e.g. Austria, Australia, Denmark, New Zealand), people expect and accept power relations that are more consultative or democratic. People relate to one another more as equals regardless of formal positions. Subordinates are more comfortable with and demand the right to contribute to and critique the decisions of those in power. In cultures with high power distance (e.g. Malaysia), the less powerful accept power relations that are autocratic or paternalistic. Subordinates acknowledge the power of others based on their formal, hierarchical positions. Thus, Low vs. High Power Distance does not measure or attempt to measure a culture's objective, "real" power distribution, but rather the way people perceive power differences.

  • Individualism vs. collectivism - This dimension measures how much members of the culture define themselves apart from their group memberships. In individualist cultures, people are expected to develop and display their individual personalities and to choose their own affiliations. In collectivist cultures, people are defined and act mostly as a member of a long-term group, such as the family, a religious group, an age cohort, a town, or a profession, among others.

  • Masculinity vs. femininity - This dimension measures the value placed on traditionally male or female values (as understood in most Western cultures). In so-called 'masculine' cultures, people value competitiveness, assertiveness, ambition, and the accumulation of wealth and material possessions. In so-called 'feminine' cultures, people value relationships and quality of life. This dimension is often renamed by users of Hofstede's work, e.g. to Quantity of Life vs. Quality of Life. Another reading of the same dimension holds that in 'M' cultures, the differences between gender roles are more dramatic and less fluid than in 'F' cultures

  • Low vs. high uncertainty avoidance - This dimension measures how much members of a society attempt to cope with anxiety by minimizing uncertainty. In cultures with high uncertainty avoidance, people prefer explicit rules (e.g. about religion and food) and formally structured activities, and employees tend to remain longer with their present employer. In cultures with low uncertainty avoidance, people prefer implicit or flexible rules or guidelines and informal activities. Employees tend to change employers more frequently.
Michael Harris Bond and his collaborators subsequently found a fifth dimension which was initially called Confucian dynamism. Hofstede later incorporated this into his framework as:

  • Long vs. short term orientation - This dimension describes a society's "time horizon," or the importance attached to the future versus the past and present. In long term oriented societies, people value actions and attitudes that affect the future: persistence/perseverance, thrift, and shame. In short term oriented societies, people value actions and attitudes that are affected by the past or the present: normative statements, immediate stability, protecting one's own face, respect for tradition, and reciprocation of greetings, favors, and gifts.
These cultural differences describe averages or tendencies and not characteristics of individuals. A Japanese person for example can have a very low 'uncertainty avoidance' compared to a Filipino even though their 'national' cultures point strongly in a different direction. Consequently, a country's scores should not be interpreted as deterministic.








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/superiority complex.


Nah, my brother is dating a girl who is from Mauritian heritage (though, she was born in London; grew up in Australia) and you don't even notice it.
 

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yeah the last time something like that happened, the dude snapped and went on a shooting rampage that left 32 people dead.
Well, that could make a nice ending. Although I was thinking more of him being extremely distraught of all this effort for nothing that his dreams of becoming a doctor are slashed, and his expected ATAR of 99.95 drops down to 84.95 and means he has to take up... nursing.

Although now that I do think about it, the correct terminology for the thread title should've been, "relationships with other ethnicities: WHY NOT?"
 

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hahahahaha

what isnt wrong with them

white males are the only good ones
blacks have huge dicks but are mostly unemployed and dumb
thats not very nice yuri! another weird thing i was pondering about is why is it that when you do see a asian with a white the white female is always good looking? above average? and i dont really understand what you guys are talking about, the racial stuff :confused:
 

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