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I don't care what you want to believe or how you believe it, it's not my business. I'm just giving my own perspective on this conversation which has veered extremely far off topic.
idk man im just replying to ur stuff idk where the convo was headed anyways loll πŸ’€
 

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I in no way said that lol. I said they're born in to it. I never said 'coerced' or they 'dont know what theyre doing'
they can leave the religion too, but its growing meaning people choose to stay in the religion rather than leave it
 

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I in no way said that lol. I said they're born in to it. I never said 'coerced' or they 'dont know what theyre doing'
"Do they align with the cultural values? Do they align with the text itself based on their own unbiased interpretation?"
i think this implies that converts don't know where their intentions lie πŸ’€
 

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I was talking about how the amounts of people in the religion are counted πŸ’€ If I said right now, without reading a page of the Quran and knowing little about it, 'I'm a muslim', would I be part of that statistic?
nah cuz i don't think ppl are converting after reading one page from the Quran πŸ’€ (or any religion for that matter)
 

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Okay I agree but what is this proving?
that although people have the oppurtunity to easily leave the relgion, they choose to stay. There must be some sort of connection people feel with islam. If it was oppressive, why would all of these people choose to stay? The point is, islam, to alot of people, is what they like, and they aren't being forced into anything, they can't be, proving that the religion isnt oppressive
 

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I know people who converted because of Andrew Tate my guy, anything's possible, especially with social media painting it in such a 'cool' and 'masculine' light
umm I'm pretty sure ppl are doing more than blindly converting to Islam bc darling tate said so... and tf u mean cool and masculine bruh religion aint a trend 😭
 

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I know people who converted because of Andrew Tate my guy, anything's possible, especially with social media painting it in such a 'cool' and 'masculine' light
yeah religion is a pretty big deal, they mightve been inspired by andrew tate but they obviously did their own research to decide that they want to be part of islam right
 

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Just because the followers aren't oppressed doesn't mean the rest of humanity don't feel oppressed by it. For example, LGBTQ. The religion is oppressive towards them, regardless if they are in it or converted or whatever.
okay but then that just means gay ppl don't wanna be Muslims or live in a Muslim country... who cares?
 

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Just because the followers aren't oppressed doesn't mean the rest of humanity don't feel oppressed by it. For example, LGBTQ. The religion is oppressive towards them, regardless if they are in it or converted or whatever.
the religion is against it, doesnt mean its oppressive. Theres a difference between being opressive, and not agreeing with a certain ideology. I agree that some people portray themselves to be really oppressive against it, but then again, thats also in the lgbtq community, some people in that community are really against religion and that could be considered 'oppressive' to people of relgiion
 

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Just because the followers aren't oppressed doesn't mean the rest of humanity don't feel oppressed by it. For example, LGBTQ. The religion is oppressive towards them, regardless if they are in it or converted or whatever.
They may feel oppressed, but at the end of the day we live in a free country and they are free to be LGBTQ. Certain religions will be against it, as will certain cultures and people. You can't dictate somebody to accept you or accept your ideology, and you can't force it on people either. I believe that its gone too far the opposite way in the Western world (at least my perception of it), with LGBTQ ideology getting pushed excessively.
 

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They may feel oppressed, but at the end of the day we live in a free country and they are free to be LGBTQ. Certain religions will be against it, as will certain cultures and people. You can't dictate somebody to accept you or accept your ideology, and you can't force it on people either. I believe that its gone too far the opposite way in the Western world (at least my perception of it), with LGBTQ ideology getting pushed excessively.
ur outnumbered by premingers. give up.
 

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I'm going to build my King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem army in the shadows and strike down all signs of preminger from existence... that renaissance era finctional fuck
 

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