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Tonight there at 10 there is a documentory on called "Grass" by Woody Harelson. It is about Marijuana and the laws and how they came about.
that's such bullshitRiewe said:But at least with alcohol, you're personality and that doesn't change over time, and when you do drink, the effects are better than pot (at least what i've seen from people when comparing their reaction to both). Alcohol drinkers seem more happy and energetic than pot smokers imo.
Oh? What about the hundred of cases of domestic abuse, each year, caused by alcohol. And I'm sure the thousands, if not millions, of people globally with serve liver problems, and a range of other problems bought about by alcohol, would disagree with your peachy assessment of alcohol.Riewe said:But at least with alcohol, you're personality and that doesn't change over time, and when you do drink, the effects are better than pot (at least what i've seen from people when comparing their reaction to both). Alcohol drinkers seem more happy and energetic than pot smokers imo.
Some sarcasm is hard to pick up on the internet--where you being serious?Not-That-Bright said:I think alcohol should (and eventually will) be banned.
it's different with drugs thoughGötterfunken said:Nothing in society is without laws; I don't think anyone is suggesting that by legalising it there will be no laws associated with it. Its like alcohol, which is still legal, but heavily legislated and regulated.
Then make alcohol illegal as well.Götterfunken said:Although I do not believe conclusive evidence suggests definitively that one is better, or worse, then the other, I do believe current theories and research suggests that generally marijuana is no more worse, in the short or long term, then alcohol.
What constitutes a "drug" is simply a conception constructed as the result of the dominate discourse within any society. You only think of drugs as different to alcohol because you've been disciplined and conditioned that way.Sonic said:it's different with drugs though
This is where I think you're wrong... I think alcohol on the whole is detrimental to the majority of society.Most of us have chosen to drink alcohol for fun despite it's negative effects. While there are a lot of people who are affected adversely by it and/or affect society, the majority of drinkers don't harm society by ways of crime or health.
that doesnt really make senseGenesys said:I don't think it would be possible for alcohol to be made illegal and yes people should excercise responsible judgement. The problem with drugs is that they effect the whole population and people under the influence of any drugs are incapable of excercising such judgement. It's very different from stopping yourself eating cake...which would just effect you. Other people are effected adversely, and so such laws are needed. Sometimes people just can be logical and reasonable with their decisions, then the law has to step in.
Come fly with me (in a vaccum), lesbian nanoparticle!jezzmo said:soha, if we banned everything that can affect us in anyway whatsoever, we'd probably live in a vacuum. which would be interesting at best....
And with an exclamation mark and all!brogan77 said:... my reasons are my own!
That is a dodgy comparision. How many people cut off their toes at parties? Besides, what u have said has already happened, in part. There is a law against selling knives to under 18's or something...coz 18+ KNOW that u shouldnt cut of people's toes.jezzmo said:Cutting off your toe is bad for you. Therefore we must make a law to encourage us not to do it.
No, u just get rid of the cake. I didnt say lock people inside their houses so they cant get alcohol. I said get rid of the alcohol. once again, a dodgy comparison.It's like binding yourself to a chair to stop yourself from eating the cake in front of you.
Not-So-Bright has this one coveredWhile there are a lot of people who are affected adversely by it and/or affect society, the majority of drinkers don't harm society by ways of crime or health.
I agree, that is excessive, but the comparison is not the same! Water, as a whole does positive things for the world. We all know without it, we would die. Generally, water is not poisonous, however all alcohol is poisonous. Humans only drink one type of alcohol (ethanol) because it is LESS poisonous than the others. The fact remains, however, that alcohol is still poison and thus, we would be better off without it.At the end of last year on the news there was a bunch of people who drowned in a river when a family picnic went bad...but the first thing one of the mothers said was that the river should be fenced off, and that the system had failed them. This picnic was within a national park. To me, the blame-shift from the mother was an even bigger tragedy.