seano77 said:
I'd encourage you, if only for the sake of gaining further arguments against Christianity, to read C.S. Lewis's 'Mere Christianity'. He explains how morality can have no source or existence apart from God.Its called the 'transcendental argument for God' I think. It claims that there is a moral law that distinguishes right from wrong (with evidence).
From that blurb, I don't feel the desire to. I agree with him that for ABSOLUTE morality to exist requires some sort of supernatural intervention, but that doesn't mean that morals exist, they exist... they're just constructions of our mortal existence and not absolute truths.
seano77 said:
If there was no absolute truth, the statement that there was no absolute truth would be false, thus contradicting itself. Anyway, for details of that read the book. Good stuff.
Well I actually think there are absolute truths, just that we don't have the faculty to ever fully prove/discover them - I do think for the most part we can use some good constructed truths to form the basis for our reality.
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Evan11 said:
I heard a lecturer say recently that Western culture is predominantely a mix of Greek thought and Judeo-Christian heritage.
We get democracy from the Greeks and equality from the Christians. (Slaves and women weren't part of the "demos" in ancient Greece.)
Similarly, Christian culture is often shaped by the dominant culture it is part of. E.g. most of the Easter, Christmas celebrations, etc., have nothing to do with Christian beliefs.
Well even like the whole idea of 'christian' concepts is kinda misleading imo, for the most part they're derived from the musings of saints (i.e. mortal men, such as st augustine who imo would have made their mark whether born to a world of christianity or one of islam, but i spose that's contentious).