First things first: if i ever meet you.... I can't say what i will do. You have no right to say that she didnt think about everyone around her and the consequences that her death would bring. No-one knows what she was thinking, or why she did it, so you can't call her selfish. Also, your point about "rough times" that people go through, yeh people go through that; but it's often just a phase that passes or it can lead to depression. Some people have one or two bad days where they go "Oh, i'm depressed i feel really sad and i want to die" but this isn't depression. If you could even grasp the tiniest notion of what depression actually is then you wouldn't have said anything in this post. If someone is depressed then they constantly feel down many times over a certain period of time. It's not their fault; see your lucky in that you probably don't have depression, and your chemical balance is right. But people with depression have a lack of chemicals in their brain that help them to think logically and be happy. It is, as some said, like cancer, an illness. But if you think that cancer patients suffer and depressed people don't, your wrong. Ok, i highly doubt that anyone here has had a serious cancer and gone through years and years of treatment but it is possible, so if you have speak up. But since that is the case, how could you know what its like? Have you personally experienced cancer or depression? From the way you're bagging depression out i'd say no, but you may have seen the former. Okay, some people who get cancer do suffer for years and then pass away, but this isn't always how it is. I had 4 grandparents when i was born in 1989 and now i only have one through heart attacks and cancer. I've seen them, and yes people with cancer do suffer. I'm not saying they don't. But I also have a family history of clinical depression and have experienced much more of that than you could possibly imagine. If you think that depression is a load of crap, then wait til you see whats coming - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_depressionsasquatch said:How can you not say someone committing suicide is not selfish. Experiencing .......... make a post.
"In some countries, such as Australia, one in four women and one in six men will suffer from depression."
I hope that you experience this sometime and you realise what it's like. You may be thinking "Oh this guys just trying to get sympathy or some shit because he's depressed" Well i dont care what you think of me, i'm just defending a girl choice on her life, which was unfortunately the wrong one, but you seem no to give a shit about why she did it. If i could write here in words a description of depression to show you how i felt at the worst of times i would, and you would realise what it's like. For now i will give you this.
Clinical depression (also called severe depressive disorder, major depressive disorder) is a state of intense sadness, melancholia or despair that has advanced to the point of being disruptive to an individual's social functioning and/or activities of daily living.
This statement is only to give you a vague idea, but i have experienced a mental state 10 times worse than this. You have nothing in your mind that can convince you to be happy. You try and think of the happiest time in your life and it depresses you even more. You think of yur friends and what would happen to them if you killed yourself, but all you can think of is all the bad things they've said or done. You think of your family, and you forget all the happy times you had with them. You think of yourself and your accomplishments... and realise how shit they are. Wow, you went good in a maths test, so what? You fucking suck at everything now. You can't think straight, nothing makes sense, you try and find a sharp object or a high building to end it all..... I could go on endlessly, but i'm too pissed off about what you said. Fortunately i did talk to someone, and i have learned to manage these things when it happens. I was on twice the normal dosage of an antidepressant for over a year to try and help, and sometimes i still felt down.
You said "She didnt stop to think of the impact her death would place on others." and you are very wrong. If you do think of this then all that it does is get you more depressed. You forget that you love them. Forget all the fun times. You literally think that you are already dead and feel guilty for making them all sad. You struggle to find a whisp of hope in your immense collection of memories and you have no idea what you want to live for anymore. You think "well what the fuck is the point of life anyway? do we just wander around for 70 or 80 years and die? what are we supposed to do? why did we waste our time watching tv, surfing the net, having relationships, playing compuetr games, do all that shit, when we don't know if we'll remember it or be remembered by others?
I am feeling slightly depressed now, but i know that i have done a good thing. Thinking back i don't know why i thought all that stuff, but i know that at the time it made sense to me. You think cancer is bad? Well ,so do i, but don't go comparing it to depression. Ok, cancer could get you really sad and possibly depressed, but you have people there to support because they know that your very sick. Many people with depression go about life, and know one knows that htey are sick.
What really enraged me was this part of your post "Fuck you to that bitch who said depression is a medical condition, and it is life threatening." If you ever say that again, then you must have no moral values or sympathy lying anywhere within that cold hard heart of yours. Just take time to think about what your saying, and do some research before you say something like "She was the one who decided to take her own life" because, she may have done this, but she wasn't mentally stable when she made this choice. And i you go and say something like "Oh wow, you have depression, who gives a shit, go cry to a counsellor" then you won't want to read my next post.
Sorry to all of those out there who had to endure this, but i hope that this gets the message through to all those heartless fucks posting in this thread saying "Suicide is selfish."
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So leave this poor girl alone, and let her rest in peace. I respect her decision, for whatever reasons it may be, and i hope that all her friends and family can cope in this difficult period of time.
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