The Exam Preparation Thread (3 Viewers)

[MiuMiu]

I think its a 2 hour seminar per week in addition to the prac

 

[ManlyChief]

No prac at USyd.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry ?

We're not really trained to deal with 'real' people ... we do focus on dealing with other lawyers, and of course a big section on dealing with companies but 'real people' only get about two week's worth of classes.

Most of my class worked at Mallesons/Clutz/Allens (and there's that one weird chap from Freehills ...) so they really woldn't have time for prac anyway ...

 

[MiuMiu]

I haven't done it yet, I put it off until second semester next year cos I haven't had time this year to spend my 'spare' time in unpaid employment (although I think most of the places people are sent for their 20 hours (the first component) actually pay the students).

I think its pretty good, because many people won't actually have any experience working in the legal environment until their first job.....this way they have at least been exposed to the 'real' world.

 

[Frigid]

-Law in the Community--completion of 30 hours voluntary (pro bono) service with a community legal service or public interest service (not being one in which they completed their 'Law in Practice Component)

i challenge the 'voluntariness' if it is a compulsory part of your course

 

[MiuMiu]

Haha yeah its a very good point...I think it just means you shouldn't expect payment for it...

 

[MiuMiu]

UNSW LLS sends us to kingsford for an afternoon. We conduct interviews.

We have a whole compulsory client interviewing subject. As well as an advocacy one and a mediation one.

 

[Demandred]

I find law is relatively easier than other exams, or at least less stressful as it is an open book exam.

I try to summarise cases into two parts, the facts and the principle.

E.g. Cook v Cook, idiot relative who let child drive car, found the SoC test is partially subjective.

 

[ManlyChief]

I find law is relatively easier than other exams, or at least less stressful as it is an open book exam.

I try to summarise cases into two parts, the facts and the principle.

E.g. Cook v Cook, idiot relative who let child drive car, found the SoC test is partially subjective.

I hate open book exams in law!

My best exam performance has been contracts - total colsed book - HD!

Although today's open book was a good exam - I think

 

[MiuMiu]

There is no point to closed book exams in law.

Never are you going to have to sit in court guiding a case purely on your memory. Law exams should examine your ability to apply, not memorise.

 

[erawamai]

I find law is relatively easier than other exams, or at least less stressful as it is an open book exam.

I try to summarise cases into two parts, the facts and the principle.

E.g. Cook v Cook, idiot relative who let child drive car, found the SoC test is partially subjective.

Law exams generally require more than identification of issues and saying what principle should be applied. You need to know the arguments of the judges. What the line of authority was etc. All the exceptions. Whether there is something in the judgment which you can use to advance your argument which shows that you have read the case well and that you actually understand it rather than leaching of someone and parrot learning principles

There is no point to closed book exams in law.

Never are you going to have to sit in court guiding a case purely on your memory. Law exams should examine your ability to apply, not memorise.

It's not like open book helps that much. It's more like an security blanket. I never have much time to look at my notes. If you are checking your notes all the time if probably means you don't know your work well. The best exam results I've gotten are when I hardly touch my notes. The best notes won't save you if you don't understand what is going on.

Law exams are probably the best way to examine a persons individual ability. Assignments can be dodgy at uni. There seems to be way too many groups getting together. Pretty unfair on the person who does it all on their own.

 

[ManlyChief]

There is no point to closed book exams in law.

Never are you going to have to sit in court guiding a case purely on your memory. Law exams should examine your ability to apply, not memorise.

I think there is some merit in closed book examinations:

- they reduce the possibility that extended prose pieces will not be students' original work

- they really, really do force all students to learn the law, as it were, which is different from memorising for the latter suggests a rote-style approach whereas the learning of the law is a far more profound activity requiring the deliberation and reflection on the principles of law and reasoning in decisions relevant.

Ms 12's second point is a fair one, however really everything in a law exam is artificial and not like 'real life' practice. But if a comparison can be drawn, I think a more appropriate comparison would be to presenting a case on appeal and having to answer from memory and reasoning (as one does in moots) questions from the bench ...

Anyway it's all academic now since I finished my exams today - yay! No more law exams for 1.5 years!!!! what ever shall I do with myself ...

 

[charlie_charlie]

No more law exams for 1.5 years!!!! what ever shall I do with myself ...

Awww, and me coming up to my first (real) law exam next week! How come you don't have any law exams??? *seethes*

 

[santaslayer]

I think there is some merit in closed book examinations:

- they reduce the possibility that extended prose pieces will not be students' original work

- they really, really do force all students to learn the law, as it were, which is different from memorising for the latter suggests a rote-style approach whereas the learning of the law is a far more profound activity requiring the deliberation and reflection on the principles of law and reasoning in decisions relevant.

...

1) Yep, one of my lae exams, I didn't think much at all because I wrote the correct notes which fit the questions pretty well. LoLz.

2) The law changes though!




Ms12, about the 60hrs work experience and so so...
do we have to find our own place to work or is it all arranged for us?

 

[ManlyChief]

Awww, and me coming up to my first (real) law exam next week! How come you don't have any law exams??? *seethes*

1 year off for Honours in History! hence, no exams till the end of semester I, 2007 = 18months!

 

[charlie_charlie]

ooooh nice. which history?

 

[ManlyChief]

ooooh nice. which history?

Modern It's going to be linked to the Holocaust - I'm off to Washington in 3 weeks to do research - yay! i'm so excited!

 

[ManlyChief]

Multiple Choice Questions

talking about exams ...

in yesterday's law one we had a multiple choice section - 10 questions, 10 marks (out of the total of 50) - it was, to say the least, a little weird and i'm not sure why they put it in ... has anyone else had multiple choice in law? ... what do you folks think about it?

 

[MiuMiu]

Cop out

But that way they can make the two essay questions worth a nice and round 20 marks each I guess (that is, assuming you had 2 essay questions...)

 

[Frigid]

fuck i've done nothing yesterday!!!!

MUST JACK UP THE EFFICIENCY!!!!1!1111

48 hours / 24 crim classes = 2 hrs / class. :RAWR:

 

[erawamai]

talking about exams ...

in yesterday's law one we had a multiple choice section - 10 questions, 10 marks (out of the total of 50) - it was, to say the least, a little weird and i'm not sure why they put it in ... has anyone else had multiple choice in law? ... what do you folks think about it?

What is with this lastest trend of multi choices? I don't like it.