Orange Juice
so worthless i am
he wont race for nothing... ill guarantee you that much
And amazingly, hes as fast as ever. And he doesn't even look like hes 37. Hes as fast and gorgeous as ever!shortygb said:37! wow hes getting quite old.
I could have easily said Schumacher is better, but I didn't. Oh, how I have improved from my comments 2 years ago.shortygb said:the only way u can compare senna and Schumacher fairly is if they were in the same car at the same track, with no advantages to any...and thats not going to happen at all.
Yea when he's in a superior car to the rest of the field. Where was your 'almighty highness last season?Cape said:Although, I'll say, Schumacher has this magical ability to punch out fastest lap times when he needs to. He can sit behind another driver for 20 or so laps, and then all of a sudden go 3 - 4 seconds faster and take the lead. He knows his car and his tyres, he can control them, unlike most of the drivers who are out there currently.
Stop being such a glory hunter and watch a real racerCape said:And I haven't watched much of F1 when Senna was around. So I'm not going to comment.
No he got 4 podiums but lets not worry about him, everyone knows he plays 2nd fiddle to Schumacher anyway.Cape said:It took exceptional talent and a michelin withdrawal at Indy for Schumacher to get 3rd in a drivers championship. Heaps of other people had shit cars, I could do a list, but meh, what about Barrichello? he was no where, 2 podiums - big deal, even heidfeld got that.
Oh please, Webber's a royal hack, you can't honestly use him as supportive evidence.Cape said:People said last year would be webbers year, and he produced nothing. And montoya a future wc? All he does is crash into backmarkers and has "tennis injuries". What about Trulli, great qualifier with one lap of fuel, then creates a train and holds up traffic the whole race.
I'm sure every driver tried their best, after all they don't get paid to slack off.There's no such thing as a 'perfect car', but the Renault was close to 'perfection'.Cape said:Whats important is he never gave up, even though he knew he couldn't win, unlike other drivers. He tried his hardest, the tyres and the car wasn't perfect, but name one car that was?
The only reason Schumacher was faster that day was, not because of his 'sheer' talent. It was because of his bridgestone tyres. They got warm quicker and were able to loose less heat compared to the Michelin runners. Have a look at Jordan they were lapping faster then Williams, Toyota, Red Bull, and Minardi.Cape said:Now, remind me what driver was over 3 seconds a lap faster than anyone on the track at San Marino?
Really?1Cape said:Thankyou, I win.
And those four podiums for Baz was because all the front runners crashed out. No one could have won a race in that ferrari last year - not even some of the other greats of formula one.s1n1Ster said:No he got 4 podiums but lets not worry about him, everyone knows he plays 2nd fiddle to Schumacher anyway.
Take the 10 points away from Indy and what positon is Schu then 5th? So the withdrawal outweighs the talent.
If he had managed to win 1 genuine race i would have admitted he was 'great'.
I think Webber is an absolute tool, who doesn't deserve to be in F1, Heidfeld showed him up last season, even if Heidfeld missed out on 8 or so races. James Courtney should take Webbers place. Infact, comparing Schumacher with Webber is just stupid, its like comparying tomatoes and oranges.s1n1Ster said:Oh please, Webber's a royal hack, you can't honestly use him as supportive evidence.
Who cares what people say, they can only speculate.
When we say renault, do we mean Fisi's car as well? Because its clearly obvious that Nando was the number one driver, and unforuntely Fisi had every mechanical issue possible. Renault wasn't the fastest car, that was Mclaren. Its not Mclarens fault that their engines blow up every second, blame Mercedes. Renault seemed fast, only because Kimi was always stuck behind the "Trulli Train".s1n1Ster said:I'm sure every driver tried their best, after all they don't get paid to slack off.There's no such thing as a 'perfect car', but the Renault was close to 'perfection'.
They had speed and reliability, having only 3 mechanical failures all season is pretty damn good don't you think?
I'll let you in on a bit of a secret here Nando had engine problemos at San Marino. It wasn't JUST because of the bridgestones, because, if it was, we would have had baz up on the podium as well, but no, it was Wurz! If the bridgestones were so good at San Marino, explain to me why Schumacher was the fastest and Baz was 15th fastest, the the next bridgestone runner after Schumacher was Baz?s1n1Ster said:The only reason Schumacher was faster that day was, not because of his 'sheer' talent. It was because of his bridgestone tyres. They got warm quicker and were able to loose less heat compared to the Michelin runners. Have a look at Jordan they were lapping faster then Williams, Toyota, Red Bull, and Minardi.
I've got nothing against 'almighty Schu. Whoever donates $10 million to charity is a champ. But in the racing world, he's overrated. The car he's been racing in was on another level compared to the rest. So his success is due to Ferrari as well as him.Cape said:Firstly, what the hell is everyones problem with Schumacher in this thread?
Wow your nice to your Ferrari team members, ruthless one.Cape said:And those four podiums for Baz was because all the front runners crashed out. No one could have won a race in that ferrari last year - not even some of the other greats of formula one.
Oh stop net-bashing Webber will ya. He may turn out to be your beloved Schu's new partnerCape said:I think Webber is an absolute tool, who doesn't deserve to be in F1, Heidfeld showed him up last season, even if Heidfeld missed out on 8 or so races. James Courtney should take Webbers place. Infact, comparing Schumacher with Webber is just stupid, its like comparying tomatoes and oranges.
Speed is not always the main factor in considering a 'perfect car'. It's Mclaren's fault as much it's Mercedes for outbalancing reliabilty for speed. Reno balanced it perfectly hence they won both championships.Cape said:When we say renault, do we mean Fisi's car as well? Because its clearly obvious that Nando was the number one driver, and unforuntely Fisi had every mechanical issue possible. Renault wasn't the fastest car, that was Mclaren. Its not Mclarens fault that their engines blow up every second, blame Mercedes. Renault seemed fast, only because Kimi was always stuck behind the "Trulli Train".
But it was the bridgestones advantage.You know why Brazilian Baz was 15th fastest? The poor bastard was retired out on the 18th lap for an electrical fault.Cape said:I'll let you in on a bit of a secret here Nando had engine problemos at San Marino. It wasn't JUST because of the bridgestones, because, if it was, we would have had baz up on the podium as well, but no, it was Wurz! If the bridgestones were so good at San Marino, explain to me why Schumacher was the fastest and Baz was 15th fastest, the the next bridgestone runner after Schumacher was Baz?
Damn straight it is. I love giving shit to royal ferarri supportersCape said:And whats with all the nit-picking of me? Just because I support Schumacher
You have to be cruel to win in the racing world. Every driver has arrogance in them, just some more than others. Schumacher is not as arrogant as other drivers. In a way Argo, hes a little like youArgonaut said:Let's see ... should I start with the bit about him being a pompous, arrogant basatrd or the fact that he would have won more races in a Smart Coupe last year?
Unless I'm mistaken, its the designers that make the car, not the driver, the driver just drives it. If Zsolt Baumgartner was in the F2004, would he have won the title?Argonaut said:It's the driver that makes the car, not the car that makes the driver, my dear.
Almost every driver underperformed last year, actually, not just the drivers, but also two tyre companies as well. Michael deserves to be in F1, hes constantly shown how determined he is to win and that he still remains able to keep up with the young guns.Argonaut said:No, it's a perfectly legitimate argument. Webber and Schumacher are similar in the way that they both underperformed last year, overhyped in some way, and both probably shouldn't be in the sport.
Name one team that does not have a number one driver?Argonaut said:No, it was Andrea Moda all over again. I can just imagine Flav saying "Mama mia! We-a concentrate-a on Alonso's car-a this-a year, boys-a! In fact-a, don't even bother-a giving Fisichell-a a motorhome-a, we make-a more room-a for-a my chopper!.
Nothing special you say? Hmm ... hes done more for F1 than what anyone has done EVER, not even Bernie could create the interest that Schumacher has. Schumacher has set the bar for future drivers and created a world wide interest in the sport again. Remember 2003, the ferrari was not the best car, however, he still won the championship.s1n1Ster said:I've got nothing against 'almighty Schu. Whoever donates $10 million to charity is a champ. But in the racing world, he's overrated. The car he's been racing in was on another level compared to the rest. So his success is due to Ferrari as well as him.
Schumacher doesn't go around thinking hes the best all the time. He knew he would eventually loose the title, and now hes more determined than ever to get it back, hence pre-christmas test at Jerez. Theres no excuse for this season. Theres a new aim - to get his title back.s1n1Ster said:And besides he doesn't understand he's 'nothing special'. Start of last season, what was his excuse? Old car? Now what is it?
I didn't like Barrichello. Although, Massa does look promising, I can't wait to see him races1n1Ster said:Wow your nice to your Ferrari team members, ruthless one.
Yea well we know Schumacher certainly couldn't.
Webber will never set foot in a ferrari, if he does, I'm having a word to the ferrari boys!s1n1Ster said:Oh stop net-bashing Webber will ya. He may turn out to be your beloved Schu's new partner
Simple, ones red and ones orange. Just like ferrari and soon to be mclaren. Plus, I don't like the colour orange.s1n1Ster said:Whats wrong with comparing tomatoes with Oranges?
For the love of god they both are fruit.
If speed isn't important as reliability, then Tiago Monterio should have won the championship.s1n1Ster said:Speed is not always the main factor in considering a 'perfect car'. It's Mclaren's fault as much it's Mercedes for outbalancing reliabilty for speed. Reno balanced it perfectly hence they won both championships.
Yea Nando was better then Fishi, but we're here to talk about dear Michael.
Lap 48 sounds about pit-stop window. He was doing what he usually does during pit stop windows - getting free air and putting laps in, under the race record.s1n1Ster said:But it was the bridgestones advantage.You know why Brazilian Baz was 15th fastest? The poor bastard was retired out on the 18th lap for an electrical fault.
Now as he had only been racing for 18 laps, his tyres didn't aquire enough heat for him to post fast laps. Schumacher posted his fastest on the 48th lap when he was well and truley into the race so his tyres were dead warm. If Baz didn't retire im sure he would have been 2nd fastest.
If you knew Imola, you would also know how hard it is to overtake there. Also, its very easy at Imola for the car infront to be as wide as the track itself.s1n1Ster said:BTW Nando had no engine problems, his rear wheels were excessively worn out.
If you look at it this way, almighty schumacher was faster by 3 secs and yet couldn't pass a 2 wheeled struggling alonso? What was his excuse? Ran out of time?
Now, now Komit.Komit said:Fuck the Schu.
Ferrari wasn't the best car? When you win both Championships, you damn right have the best car on the track.Cape said:Nothing special you say? Hmm ... hes done more for F1 than what anyone has done EVER, not even Bernie could create the interest that Schumacher has. Schumacher has set the bar for future drivers and created a world wide interest in the sport again. Remember 2003, the ferrari was not the best car, however, he still won the championship.
Cape said:Schumacher doesn't go around thinking hes the best all the time. He knew he would eventually loose the title, and now hes more determined than ever to get it back, hence pre-christmas test at Jerez. Theres no excuse for this season. Theres a new aim - to get his title back.
Barichello would be glad he won't have to play the secondary role anymore. Lets see how Massa takes it.Cape said:I didn't like Barrichello. Although, Massa does look promising, I can't wait to see him race
There are orange tomatoes too, sunshineCape said:Simple, ones red and ones orange. Just like ferrari and soon to be mclaren. Plus, I don't like the colour orange.
Yea but' you need some speed with 'reliability. Jordan's are 3.5 secs slower on average then the main rivals so you can't really use them as comparison.Cape said:If speed isn't important as reliability, then Tiago Monterio should have won the championship.
Oh stop giving lame excuses and admit the facts. BRIDGESTONES had a BIG advantange:uhhuh:Cape said:Lap 48 sounds about pit-stop window. He was doing what he usually does during pit stop windows - getting free air and putting laps in, under the race record.
Thats no excuse. So he was able to overtake Button ,But he couldn't overtake the champ?Cape said:If you knew Imola, you would also know how hard it is to overtake there. Also, its very easy at Imola for the car infront to be as wide as the track itself.