HotShot
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When they launched a few missiles towards japan.. they have taken militaric action recently.. iran hasnt really.Comrade nathan said:Why? What has the DPRK ever done to another nation?
When they launched a few missiles towards japan.. they have taken militaric action recently.. iran hasnt really.Comrade nathan said:Why? What has the DPRK ever done to another nation?
they do like to threaten the complete destruction of other countries though. and to train terrorist groups. and to incite violence. and the list goes on. how many other countries boast that, and a fledgling nuclear program, that has already been promised to be used once developed?HotShot said:iran hasnt really.
Yeah, except that those missiles weren’t ‘at Japan’ as you put it, they weren’t aggressive action, they were missile testing in the ocean.HotShot said:When they launched a few missiles towards japan.. they have taken militaric action recently.. iran hasnt really.
why do continually refer to whats a threat and whats not. the US has invaded iraq, afghanistan and vietnam and has been responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, but you continue to see them as the good guys. iraq nor iran would ever have been able nor be able to fire any weaponary at the US, anything unidentified flying over the Atlantic/ Pacific would be shot down in a matter of minutes. so there is never any direct outside threat. scaremongering has been the most prominent feature of the US gov.. i wonder if anybody has ever counted the number of times Bush has used the words terrorism or weapons of mass destruction.heres a video that i think explains quite well the motives behind the US gov foreign policy and the infamous wolfowitz doctrine that almost predicts 911. http://youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8KpSczlNcJayB said:where has america ever killed millions of people with atomic weapons? the figures from hiroshima and nagasaki are well below that.
america has never threatened to wipe a country off the map in the last 20 years. iran continues to do so. besides which, like i've tried to explain already, the terrorism now is islamic expansionism,nothing more. thats the root of the problem. they (the fascist governments) want to enforce their way of life on everybody. this isnt just me saying this, or assuming this. this is from the speeches of their religious leaders, and from their government (as if it can really be called that) leaders. and to compare america to germany is just disgusting. germany was a sick fascist regime in which free speech was crushed, and genocide was publicly supported. america stands diametrically opposed to those "values".
The DPRK has made no threats of attack. They only state they will protect themselves. In imperialist countries the citizens equate national sovereignty and armed defence of a indepenent socialist country with agression. It is a similar fear that was common during the anti-colonial movements in the 1900's.see comrade, the whole idea of a pre-emptive strike is to attack before you are attacked. therefore its not what the DPRK have done to other countries, but what a totalitarian fascist regime threatens to do. not a single one have ever been stable enough to resist conquest by fire or the sword. or in this case, the atomic bomb.
What do you mean?not many countries will "declare" war before they declare it, if you see what i mean.
who do you suggest was behind 911 then? let me guess, a bunch of shonky desert arabs, 6 of whom are still alive today and have been interviewed by the BBC, who probably dint know how to use a tv remote, mastermineded by some loser in the caves of some desert? <this is easily the most ludicrous theory.JayB said:and what exactly are you insinuating with the video? that america is to blame for 9-11? or that they were behind it? both are ludicrous.
ur grossly underestimating the intelligence of these terrorists. Just have at OSama at wikipedia and see where and what studied etc.onebytwo said:who do you suggest was behind 911 then? let me guess, a bunch of shonky desert arabs, 6 of whom are still alive today and have been interviewed by the BBC, who probably dint know how to use a tv remote, mastermineded by some loser in the caves of some desert? <this is easily the most ludicrous theory.
if you think the above is the case then i would like you to present me with your explanation or link about how WTC 7 collapsed so suddenly and why molten steel was found below the rubble days after 911. the 911 commision doesnt even mention the collapse of WTC 7. also, if you do believe the above then you are a devout follower of the most proposterous "pancake theory"
even the FBI admit they dont have solid evidence relating anybody to 911.
lets not forget larry silverstein (WTC lease owner) said they decided to "pull" wtc 7 that afternoon, as shown in a PBS interview
i wonder what would happened if Japan dropped a nuke on america. Its stupid argument that pro-americans use to justify their actions against Japan. There are so many ways to end the way - Japan were already losing.. and I am sure america could have arranged a diplomatic solution. Another argument they used they wanted to test it? there are so many places to test nukes in the world by testing and taking video footage and showing japs - i am sure they could have reached a diplomatic solution.no, they dropped the bomb on japan to finish the war, which in all essentials it did. and i know you will argue about the lives it saved vs the lives it killed, but the other thing you need to note is that they were at war, which means an us and them mentality, so the dropping of the bombs did literally save thousands at least, if not many many more american lives.
No they are true democracy - they have yet to have black president. KKK has had ridiculous sucess. New Orleans was a sight. freedom of speech - to be honest has little value if no one heeds to it.america doesnt slaughter their citizens because they are a democracy. it would be unlawful and unjust, and completely against everything that makes america a great nation. they also have freedom of speech, while iraw didnt and iran definately does not, niether the dprk. which would you prefer to live in? for whatever reasons they declared war on iraq, the act removed a dictator, and freed thousands of people from a totalitarian regime.
Maybe because they are the superpower and they have greater responsibility.m talking about world governments, im talking about normal people who like to complain that america are the world police, but when atrocities are committed, turn to them, whether directly or indirectly to save everyone.
east timor's situation is vastly different the country was under turmoil prior to australia intervention.can i assume then, that you oppose australias role in east timor then? a military action in another country?
american had already declared war through its actions.. by arming and massing military around the region. they only pretended to give warnings. that they knew iraq wouldnt listen to - propaganda.i can't fault you comrade, what you've said is totally true. but america percieves a threat there. not many countries will "declare" war before they declare it, if you see what i mean.
the moon and elvis are nowhere near the same thingJayB said:umm, gee i wonder who was behind it. could it possibly be the freaking terrorists who hijacked the planes, and crashed them into the towers?
nah couldnt be. its too obvious.
who else needs to be related. i didnt try and relate it to iraq or afghanistan. the people who where behind it were american yeah, but it wasnt the government. islamic terrorists come in all nationalities. its part of the fun. just like the london bombers. unlless your gonna tell me that that was also just a big government conspiracy. while were at it, we didnt really go to the moon, jfk wasnt really assasinated, and elvis is alive and haunting shopping centres in south africa.
you cheapen the memory of those who perished there with your pathetic excuses for conspiracy theories.