Watching the news, I have lost faith in the Australian public... (1 Viewer)

[Wesnat]

^ Yes, I agree. I know it's tragic that 9 Australians have died in Indonesia (I shed a tear when watching the coverage of their bodies' arrival in Australia), but this doesn't mean that Australians get a special treatment in any way.

I also find unfair that all efforts are made to release Corby (by the Australian government - considering 90% of the population think she is innocent, I think we all know the government's reason) while there are many others who are probably just as innocent as she is (if she is innocent) who are in jail until now simply because they're, ironically, not in the right place at the right time.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

I love Australia, but what i've heard/seen in the past 10 hours is simply shocking. It's like the mask of how "good natured" and "accepting" we are has just come off.

 

[Wesnat]

Oh, forgot to add that

MIKE MUNRO IS A MORON

I think last week, there was another show on Corby with the worm thing, and I find it amusing that they only spend 10 minutes on the case against, while the rest of the program is spent on how bad the prison condition is (what's your point Channel nine? It has nothing to do with the case for or against her - it's just there to draw pity from the public) and the case for her.

I'm not saying that Corby is guilty. In fact, I want her to be proven innocent.

 

[spell check]

what the fuck are you people talking about

did you not know that many australians are ultra-patriotic and racist much of the time? especially ones watching channel 9 news and listening to talkback radio

did you not expect people to have sympathy for corby in this case?

did you think people wouldn't react to the girl being sentenced to 20 years in prison when most think she is innocent?


i can't see why you would be surprised that people seek some avenue reversing this decision, not everyone can cold heartedly accept it, especially when faced with media saturation of this sort.

 

[Generator]

You can be a real arsehole at times, Asquithian. Many people may merely feel sympathy for this person more so than for others merely because it has become a media event that nobody could possibly ignore. Don't be so quick to judge when you are clearly not aware of the reasons for the particular stance (I do realise that you are asking for those reasons, yet your tone is far too confrontational, to tell the truth. You're nothing more than a cultural supremacist yourself (as am I), and I really do hope that you are aware of that).

 

[spell check]

But why?

Why do you WANT her to be innocent?

What the hell is that meant to mean?

maybe it means they'd like to go overseas sometime and hope if corby is proven innocent they might be too if drugs were to be planted in their bag

 

[Wesnat]

^ Well, you know, she's so pretty, and she LOOKS like she is innocent and all that

j/k

Okay, I admit I have been a victim of the media frenzy, thinking that she is innocent. But I'm not surprised of the judge's verdict, and I accept it.

I just can't stand the media and its bias.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Asquithian! Stop being so un-australian!

 

[spell check]

Why is everyone jumping to conclusions to back up their emotions?

what are you talking about

are you not worried about the possibility that people who have drugs planted in their luggage seem to have to prove how exactly the drugs got there in order to not be given a 20 year sentence?

 

[Not-That-Bright]

what are you talking about

are you not worried about the possibility that people who have drugs planted in their luggage seem to have to prove how exactly the drugs got there in order to not be given a 20 year sentence?

That's not what people are worry about at all tho, I don't hear people screaming that out.

Jeesus. I mean she should be brought back to Australia and given a tika tape parade.

She is a Hero. How could some asian judge know what he is going on about. She is so obviously innocent.

We give these poor people money for fucks sake!!! How can they jail one of our best assets.

THAT is what people are saying.

 

[spell check]

Jeesus. I mean she should be brought back to Australia and given a tika tape parade.

She is a Hero. How could some asian judge know what he is going on about. She is so obviously innocent.

We give these poor people money for fucks sake!!! How can they jail one of our best assets.





This blind aussie emotional nationalism is sick.

god you are shit

stop trying to hide the real issues with this false idea that everyone is a disgusting nationalist

the problem is that it seems the case against her was so sketchy - it could and probably has happened to many innocent people

 

[spell check]

I know thats possible. It's also possible that she did smuggle the drugs.

Shit I'm jumping to unrealistic conclusions!

so what evidence would you have presented in order to be acquitted if it had been you in this case, and the drugs had been planted in your luggage

ignore whether or not you personally think that she put the drugs in her bag or not

 

[Wesnat]

I think here's the very basic of Australia's and Indonesia's legal system:

Australia - prosecutor must find the defendant guilty
- therefore guilty people can get off jail

Indonesia - defence team must find the defendant innocent
- therefore innocent people can get in jail

I don't think one is better than the other. They have weak points and stuff. To insult Indonesia's system is to be naive.

Anyway, this media attention reminds of the movie Chicago. Anyone's watched it?

 

[Wesnat]

Btw, the problem is NOT the Indonesian legal system.

We must not forget that the REAL problem is the drug smuggling organisation itself. Why blame Indo's legal system if it's this that's the source of the problem?

 

[m_isk]

The sensationalism of it all is accentutated by the fact that if Schappelle Corby was a big fat man with 11 tattoos, this might make page 25 of the paper. Might.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

so what evidence would you have presented in order to be acquitted if it had been you in this case, and the drugs had been planted in your luggage

ignore whether or not you personally think that she put the drugs in her bag or not

Spell check, there's currently an investigation into the luggage handlers. If they are found to have planted the drugs, then they will be found guilty in Australia and she may appeal in Indonesia and will probably be acquitted, of course "There is currently an investigation that MAY find the true perpetrator" is way too subjective.

Of course, if that evidence never turns up then she will be found guilty, like many other people are found guilty of crimes they profess they didn't comit.

 

[spell check]

both systems are bad in this area

in my opinion indonesia is probably worse in terms of standards of collecting evidence and the such and there does seem to have been an obvious feeling in the court that she was guilty from day one

 

[v sia]

20 years only pffffft they went so soft on her . All i needed to hear was

1) she travelled to Bali regularly ( 4-5 times )

2) She tried to stop them from searching her bag

3) The bag of marijuana was like 1 metre long rofl ( 4 kg ) ........ come on who cant tell there is an extra 4 kg's on their backs ?

 

[spell check]

Spell check, there's currently an investigation into the luggage handlers. If they are found to have planted the drugs, then they will be found guilty in Australia and she may appeal in Indonesia and will probably be acquitted, of course "There is currently an investigation that MAY find the true perpetrator" is way too subjective.

Of course, if that evidence never turns up then she will be found guilty, like many other people are found guilty of crimes they profess they didn't comit.

exactly, you can hardly expect every defendant in a case like this to commit an investigation which comes up with the person who actually planted the drugs in their bag

this is why the law appears to be so tyrannical - it forces defendants to achieve the impossible in order to be acquitted

at least in australia if you could shed some doubt on the idea that you knew about the drugs and the court believed you you would be hopefully acquitted, indonesia appears not to have that standard

 

[Not-That-Bright]

For #3 I can say I honestly couldn't tell, 4kg isn't really that much, when I was going to highschool my bag weighed around 10kg.