Watching the news, I have lost faith in the Australian public... (1 Viewer)

[heybraham]

I'm just going by some of the political polls where the greens have almost eclipsed the libs.

what? the watermelons have beaten the facists? hahah that would be funny.

 

[breaking]

i'd be lying if i said i wanted australians to just accept the verdict and not stage any form of protests etc

 

[heybraham]

i'd be lying if i said i wanted australians to just accept the verdict and not stage any form of protests etc

im gonna have to say, i agree, if you feel something you should express it, i guess not doing so is one of the most unaustralian things to do if i'm to define what australianism is

speaking of losing faith in Australian society and questioning what's 'australian' and what's not:

last election: did the majority of Australia really think about interest rates first? i believe keeping a leader who demonstrates a lack of leadership skills because of interest rates fears and tax cuts is one of the most unaustralian acts to commit...ever.

howard hasn't done jackshit except fail his own promises 'i will never introduce the gst', 'i will never sell telstra', 'i will not be an asshole' etc.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Heybraham, even tho he said he won't introduce the gst, he made it a campaign issue in the election so I don't know how you can claim he lied.
He's also made it obvious that he will sell telstra.

His main possible big lie is Tampa, but most people don't care about silly boat people anyway.

 

[Wesnat]

Oh, yeah, another person I forgot to label a moron regarding Corby's case:

RUSSELL CROWE

But Mike Munro still beats him. MM is the king of TV bias, after all.

 

[absolution*]

Oh, yeah, another person I forgot to label a moron regarding Corby's case:

RUSSELL CROWE

But Mike Munro still beats him. MM is the king of TV bias, after all.

Fuck, clever cunt

 

[braindrainedAsh]

But (and I'm sure this has already been discussed, though possibly elsewhere) the media was rather biased. I cannot recall a single piece of evidence against her other than the bodyboard bag stuffed with dope (which was called into question by a witness whose testimony was little more than hearsay) because the media didn't report it.

Argonaut I have to disagree. There has been media reporting how she may be guilty. What media outlets do you consume? Just the commercial TV networks and the tele? What can you expect from them?

On the front of the SMH and the Age the other day there was a story which explained why an Australian might want to bring cannabis to Bali.... because often dope dealers in bali are often undercover cops and westerners would rather pay a high price to buy dope from other westerners because they trust them not to be undercover cops.

There have been opinion pieces in the SMH that defend Indonesia's legal system. There have also been stories about the types of issues that people on here are discussing- the way in which schapelle has been highlighted while others have been ignored, possibly because she is pretty. There have also been stories questioning Ron Bakir's motives.

Questions have been raised by media personalities such as Hinch and Laws as to her guilt and the fairness of Australia's judgement of innocence.

Yes, the commercial networks and some media sources have been very pro-Corby.... but to say that there was no material out there that considered the possibility that she is actually guilty is incorrect.

Also, there is a lack of evidence for her guilt.... plus when journalists interview her family etc, of course the story will come over as proclaiming her innocence.

Some links to articles which have been somewhat analytical of the situation (hard to find stuff because you have to pay to access archives):
http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/25/1116950758469.html
http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/26/1116950819434.html
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1356362.htm
http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/26/1116950819431.html
http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/26/1116950819428.html
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1244149.htm

Haven't got time to look up anything else, got essays to do.

 

[Generator]

You can access older smh/the age articles through google by searching for the domain, a particular date and a key term (e.g., "site:smh.com.au 2005/05/25 immigration"). Wading through the results can be a pain if the key term is fairly common and you don't have a particular date to work with, though.

Just a random tip that may be of use to some.

 

[Wesnat]

Just saw Lateline then.

I am grateful that the reporter asked the question "why has Corby gained so much media attention, when there are other Australians on death-row whose names we don't even know?"

But this guy didn't dare tell the truth in front of the camera. He answered that it was because her case involved baggage handlers, and, knowing that Australians like to travel, Australians related well with her case - it can happen to them.

Of course, this can be true to a certain extent. But not only did he not answer the question (it can be the same thing happening for the other innocent Australians on death-row, but why Corby?), before there was a big fuss on baggage handlers, she already gained much media attention, genius!

 

[iambored]

I agree this has been made into a soap opera and that is partly the reason why I have refused to follow it. We don't have enough unbiased facts ourselves to make a decision on whether she is innocent or guilty. I feel sorry for her and was very sad to hear of the outcome. 20 years is more than enough, she didn't hurt anyone so if they make an appeal for life they must be nuts.

A problem is that there are many people with drugs planted and if what we have heard of the case is true (they didn't consider their witnesses, didn't weigh the bags, didn't fingerprint) it's disgusting that they can get away with it.

 

[braindrainedAsh]

You can access older smh/the age articles through google by searching for the domain, a particular date and a key term (e.g., "site:smh.com.au 2005/05/25 immigration"). Wading through the results can be a pain if the key term is fairly common and you don't have a particular date to work with, though.

Just a random tip that may be of use to some.

Yeah I forgot about that.... usually I just use Factiva, but I can't post links to the articles that I find with that

 

[braindrainedAsh]

You can always trust the chaser to deliver:

http://www.chaser.com.au/show_story.asp?ID=1049&ED=90&CAT=1

http://www.chaser.com.au/show_story.asp?ID=1055&ED=90&CAT=1

 

[supercharged]

The amount of media bias which proclaims Corby's innocence based on nothing more than she is an Australian citizen in the hands of the somehow "inferior" Indonesian legal system is disgusting

 

[HotShot]

funnty

You can always trust the chaser to deliver:

http://www.chaser.com.au/show_story.asp?ID=1049&ED=90&CAT=1

http://www.chaser.com.au/show_story.asp?ID=1055&ED=90&CAT=1

oh thats fuuny!

 

[belleree98]

Two words:

Media Watch! They did a great segment on the whole issue.