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What do you guys think of the Western Sydney guys supporting the hamas attack on the israelites and rallying over this? (2 Viewers)

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No you put up those quotes with the insinuation to others that Islam is the cause of the fostering of conflicts between Jews and Christians. Okay then, if you're not painting Islam in a negative light, I must have interpreted it wrong. Why do you need to create a hostile atmosphere? Want me to say sorry???
It's such a shame when you either lie or be stupid
 

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9:29 "Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and his apostle nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay the Jizya [religious tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

5:54 "O ye who believe. Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust."
Tbh I think you can dig up some shit from every sacred text
 

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@Decapped these are the types of comments your posts are fostering
In fairness this isn’t inherently problematic on its own - judgement of religious ideology is not a bad thing. The problem is more the very thinly veiled belief of ‘well their religion sucks so they all suck and should be bombed’
 

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I'm not painting Islam in a negative light? Did I say it was Islam entirely? You're just obfuscating from the fact that Hamas are jihadists who proclaim from their Quran these specific verses with motivate this behaviour. It's so ironic that a Christian is taking offence for Islam when it isn't even really being attacked in this situation, nothing better.
You guys can say whatever you want, but keep religion out of it. You're painting it in a negative light, because this is not about religion it's about innocent civilians dying and thats all you seem to take out of this situation
 

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In fairness this isn’t inherently problematic on its own - judgement of religious ideology is not a bad thing. The problem is more the very thinly veiled belief of ‘well their religion sucks so they all suck and should be bombed’
This thread was not made to argue on if Islam is a good or bad religion. He can take it somewhere else
 

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In fairness this isn’t inherently problematic on its own - judgement of religious ideology is not a bad thing. The problem is more the very thinly veiled belief of ‘well their religion sucks so they all suck and should be bombed’
I never said that, you keep lying without a shred of evidence and I even provide parts of my posts that oppose this fallacious claim that I justified the killing of innocent Palestinians because of their religious beliefs.
 

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@Decapped these are the types of comments your posts are fostering
Tbh I think you can dig up some shit from every sacred text
Man, I am a Christian as well but why are you taking offence to criticisms of religion yet another religion lmao.
They are valid as well and its foolish to deny that Both Hamas and Israel are motivated by their own doctrine
 

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This thread was not made to argue on if Islam is a good or bad religion. He can take it somewhere else
ur not wrong but islam is a fundamental part of Hamas’ ideology so critique of that isn’t *wrong* per se, the problem is that ppl are using critique of religion as a scapegoat lols
 

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Man, I am a Christian as well but why are you taking offence to criticisms of religion yet another religion lmao.
They are valid as well and its foolish to deny that Both Hamas and Israel are motivated by their own doctrine
No one is denying that they're both motivated by their own extremist doctrines. That's the issue actually, bruh im agreeing with you here.
 

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You guys can say whatever you want, but keep religion out of it. You're painting it in a negative light, because this is not about religion it's about innocent civilians dying and thats all you seem to take out of this situation
do you believe that Hamas and Israel are motivated by religious beliefs/doctrine?
Why do you think Hamas is saying allahu ackbar everytime they kill a soldier or civillian as seen through factual evidence?
If you think that this is me painting islam in a bad light well thats on you, this is why I put 'doctrine' because you can obviously be a regular muslim or one who is an extremist lmao

Please dont be offended
 

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ur not wrong but islam is a fundamental part of Hamas’ ideology so critique of that isn’t *wrong* per se, the problem is that ppl are using critique of religion as a scapegoat lols
no i have to disagree here, because if you researched you would know that Islam does not support or even provide the backbone of hamas' ideologies. hamas is using Islam as a justification, so the criticism should not be on Islam, it should be on Hamas.
 

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I never said that, you keep lying without a shred of evidence and I even provide parts of my posts that oppose this fallacious claim that I justified the killing of innocent Palestinians because of their religious beliefs.
Then I apologise for the misinterpretation, but do tell why you posted parts of the Quran? What was the purpose?
 

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no i have to disagree here, because if you researched you would know that Islam does not support or even provide the backbone of hamas' ideologies. hamas is using Islam as a justification, so the criticism should not be on Islam, it should be on Hamas.
dude ISLAM is a fundamental part of Hamas, their end goal is to establish an Islamic State and get rid of the jewish government and enforce Islam my guy.
how do you not see this as a Christian? It seems like you would want Hamas to force every christian and jew to convert even tho u are a Christian yourself
 

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dude ISLAM is a fundamental part of Hamas, their end goal is to establish an Islamic State and get rid of the jewish government and enforce Islam my guy.
how do you not see this as a Christian? It seems like you would want Hamas to force every christian and jew to convert even tho u are a Christian yourself
See here's where your argument fails as soon as you make personal arguments, you're putting words in my mouth which is something you've been doing almost every single time you post. this is a stupid insinuation to make, when tf did i say that i want all Christians and jews to convert to Islam.

are we not gonna deny that zionist judaism is a fundamental part of israel's establishment?
 

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Man, I am a Christian as well but why are you taking offence to criticisms of religion yet another religion lmao.
They are valid as well and its foolish to deny that Both Hamas and Israel are motivated by their own doctrine
It was mainly just the idea of basing an argument as to the nature of a religion based on two cherry-picked quotes. I am an atheist and don't support any form of religion, but that would be remiss to claim there aren't any peaceful, well-intentioned Muslims.
 

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do you believe that Hamas and Israel are motivated by religious beliefs/doctrine?
Why do you think Hamas is saying allahu ackbar everytime they kill a soldier or civillian as seen through factual evidence?
If you think that this is me painting islam in a bad light well thats on you, this is why I put 'doctrine' because you can obviously be a regular muslim or one who is an extremist lmao

Please dont be offended
Do you think Palestinian civilians agree with Hamas? It's just like when the Taliban took control over Afghanistan, the Afghans were scared and tried running away. Hamas is a terrorist group, this group doesn't represent Palestine majority and it never will. You blame it on their beliefs, but one group of people in a religion doesn't mean you need to hate/backlash on a whole group of people.
 

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Then I apologise for the misinterpretation, but do tell why you posted parts of the Quran? What was the purpose?
Because people were arguing that this conflict was indifferent to religious motivations,I simply posted these verses as an example in which the terrorist group proclaims as the 'truth or way of Allah.' These are literally the quranic foundations for Salafist Jihadism
 
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