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funny how all those super smart chinese people could never achieve anything until they got their hands on western technology
Western technology? Pretty sure most of the technology you use are made with by Asians, and the 'western' bits are made by Asians in the West (hint: the brown Asians)

? A chinese kid with humble textbooks and a lamp can get better marks than a western kid with all his/her laptop, iphone, desktop, ereader, tablet, car, motorbike, xbox, gym....
 
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Western technology? Pretty sure most of the technology you use are made with by Asians, and the 'western' bits are made by Asians in the West (hint: the brown Asians)
Made my chinese peasants, yes, but invented and designed by europeans.

? A chinese kid with humble textbooks and a lamp can get better marks than a western kid with all his/her laptop, iphone, desktop, ereader, tablet, car, motorbike, xbox, gym....
Yes, western kids play xbox, own motorbikes and go to the gym in order to get better marks.
 

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When was the last time Europeans designed anything in consumer technology?
Well all the time, and everything that the chinese develop is just building upon european knowledge and design.

The chinese are also notorious for their stealing of technology.

Like how they paid for the rights to use french train technology to make their own trains, took these designs and modified them just enough for them to be considered a "new technology" and then owned the rights to "their" train technology which was actually just a copy of the french's technology.
 

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without european ingenuity you would be working in a rice paddy
 

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When was the last time Europeans designed anything in consumer technology?
Gee I don't know, like everything under the sun at the moment?

Name one thing that is truly innovative that has come out of China in the past century. Why do you think they had import substitution rules pre1990s?

It's funny how the Chinese invented gun powder but it was the europeans who used it to change the world.

edit: australians so dumb we invented wifi, you're welcome financialwar.
 
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Well all the time, and everything that the chinese develop is just building upon european knowledge and design.

The chinese are also notorious for their stealing of technology.

Like how they paid for the rights to use french train technology to make their own trains, took these designs and modified them just enough for them to be considered a "new technology" and then owned the rights to "their" train technology which was actually just a copy of the french's technology.
Gee I don't know, like everything under the sun at the moment?

Name one thing that is truly innovative that has come out of China in the past century. Why do you think they had import substitution rules pre1990s?

It's funny how the Chinese invented gun powder but it was the europeans who used it to change the world.

edit: australians so dumb we invented wifi, you're welcome financialwar.


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Yeah, one patent on wifi, big deal.
 

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South Korea dominating!!! Lol

If Shanghai was a country, we would be no1. in per GDP and per capita just like we Shanghainese dominated in PISA tests.

the rest of poor ass Chinese like the dumb asstibetans, muslims terrorists in xinjiang dragging Shanghainese down.
 

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South Korea dominating!!! Lol

If Shanghai was a country, we would be no1. in per GDP and per capita just like we Shanghainese dominated in PISA tests.

the rest of poor ass Chinese like the dumb asstibetans, muslims terrorists in xinjiang dragging Shanghainese down.
Wifi is a big deal, it completely revolutionized digital communication. Number of patents don't mean shit. It's quality over quantity, you realize most of the "scientific" innovations in china are just copycat material right?

It's easy to be "no1" when you exclude the rest of the population in official stats. Realistically shanghai has 40 million people and you can bet your ass the lower class don't get to send their kids to school. Having the "best" secondary education system doesn't mean shit when your tertiary education system is far behind the western world.
 

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According to data gathered by the OECD, China produced 285,000 papers in 2009. That's about 0.2 papers per 1,000 head of the population. Just 0.05 percent were published in top journals.
By comparison, the United States published 473,000 papers, or 1.6 for every 1,000 people. More than half made it into top journals. The figures for the UK, which punches above its weight, are 134,000 papers, just over 2 per 1,000 people, with more than half in top journals.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/28/us-science-china-idUSBRE84R06G20120528
 

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From the patent aspect, East Asians are on part with Western countries, and Koreans & Japanese certainly > White people in innovations.

The thing is, how many of the Western inventions are done by ethnic Asians? Given that significant amount of phd in Western unis are Asians, inventions and innovotions in the West can not be attributable to White people.

West=/=White however,

E.Asia=E.Asians

So it's pointless to attribute by nations since Western imports most of it's brains since local white people are retards most of time stoned on weed.

So end of the day, E.Asians and Jews are advancing the human race, white too sometimes. Black people just spread disease and Arabs just want to blow everyone up.
 

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i dont think number of patents is a worthwhile measure to be honest.

are you familiar with the concept of patent trolling?
 

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I am not sure why you live in Australia since you've basically said all white people are stupid.
 

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From the patent aspect, East Asians are on part with Western countries, and Koreans & Japanese certainly > White people in innovations.

The thing is, how many of the Western inventions are done by ethnic Asians? Given that significant amount of phd in Western unis are Asians, inventions and innovotions in the West can not be attributable to White people.

West=/=White however,

E.Asia=E.Asians

So it's pointless to attribute by nations since Western imports most of it's brains since local white people are retards most of time stoned on weed.

So end of the day, E.Asians and Jews are advancing the human race, white too sometimes. Black people just spread disease and Arabs just want to blow everyone up.
do you even know any white people? You sound like a racist horrible human being.

Also, There are a lot of asian people coming to western universities because there are no tier 1 research institutions in the non-western world.

Oxbridge invented the modern university.

There are entire industries that do not exist in asian countries, like aircraft manufacturing, weapons and IT.

The problem with your rigid non-individualistic culture is that yhou will never have greatness. Western countries are the envy of the world because the best people from all countries want to come to the UK, USA, Canada, Australia. Whereas the asian nations are inherently racist and inherently have a brain drain where there are no jobs for the best and brightest, who study and work in the elite universities and employers of the Western World.

even what you perceive as laziness is individualism and creativity. the US, for example, had the counter cultural hippe movement and the rise of silicon valley. I can not think of any asian countries that have cultural attitudes that enable that kind of spontaneous creativity to happen.
 

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From the patent aspect, East Asians are on part with Western countries, and Koreans & Japanese certainly > White people in innovations.

The thing is, how many of the Western inventions are done by ethnic Asians? Given that significant amount of phd in Western unis are Asians, inventions and innovotions in the West can not be attributable to White people.

West=/=White however,

E.Asia=E.Asians

So it's pointless to attribute by nations since Western imports most of it's brains since local white people are retards most of time stoned on weed.

So end of the day, E.Asians and Jews are advancing the human race, white too sometimes. Black people just spread disease and Arabs just want to blow everyone up.
do you even know any white people? You sound like a racist horrible human being.

Also, There are a lot of asian people coming to western universities because there are no tier 1 research institutions in the non-western world.

Oxbridge invented the modern university.

There are entire industries that do not exist in asian countries, like aircraft manufacturing, weapons and IT.

The problem with your rigid non-individualistic culture is that yhou will never have greatness. Western countries are the envy of the world because the best people from all countries want to come to the UK, USA, Canada, Australia. Whereas the asian nations are inherently racist and inherently have a brain drain where there are no jobs for the best and brightest, who study and work in the elite universities and employers of the Western World.

even what you perceive as laziness is individualism and creativity. the US, for example, had the counter cultural hippe movement and the rise of silicon valley. I can not think of any asian countries that have cultural attitudes that enable that kind of spontaneous creativity to happen.
 

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also most jews are ashkenazi, which means caucasian.

The only ethnic jews are sepphardic
 

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From the patent aspect, East Asians are on part with Western countries, and Koreans & Japanese certainly > White people in innovations.
As pointed out, the per capita patent output is higher in the west and the quality is much higher too.

Most chinese patents are either slight variations on existing European-invented technology or are just flat-out copying off of european technology.


The thing is, how many of the Western inventions are done by ethnic Asians? Given that significant amount of phd in Western unis are Asians, inventions and innovotions in the West can not be attributable to White people.
The generation of patents does not mean that innovative owrk is being done. Europeans invented/discovered nearly all main technologies and not chinese kids do grunt work of marginally improving performance or efficiency. White people are more than capable of any of that crap, but they by and large don't want to because its shit work.

I have literally worked at a research firm in china for an internship. We were researching methods of toner manufacture, and the research consisted of running trials all day with slightly modified conditions or starting chemicals until one of them caused a marginal improvement in toner performance, and then repeat. It's nothing innovative. It's just brute force research marginally improving on western technology of laser printers.


So it's pointless to attribute by nations since Western imports most of it's brains since local white people are retards most of time stoned on weed.
Again, if the chinese are so smart, why have they only stopped being an agrarian society mere decades ago?

Why do they have to go to the west to do all their great work? (Hint: all the western professors actually know what the fuck they're doing unlike in china's shitty universities.)


So end of the day, E.Asians and Jews are advancing the human race, white too sometimes. Black people just spread disease and Arabs just want to blow everyone up.
Advancing the human race by the veritable enslavement of peasants and theft of western technology.
 

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if the chinese are so smart, why have they only stopped being an agrarian society mere decades ago?
Errr I don't know, may be China dominated the world economy and in technology 20 out of the last 21 centuries, and only lost to the worst due to early European industrial revolution and most importantly Europe's closeness to Americas and Africa allow them to capture large amount of resources and slaves for almost free.

If Chinese were murderous maniacs like white people that kill and rape every indigenous people on the planet, do you think white would have a chance? If Zheng He killed and raped like the Europeans did, you'll be talking to me in Chinese.
 
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Errr I don't know, may be China dominated the world economy and in technology 20 out of the last 21 centuries,
Nope

and most importantly Europe's closeness to Americas and Africa allow them to capture large amount of resources and slaves for almost free.

The europeans were already advanced. They didn't become wealthy and advanced due to colonisation. It was their advancement that allowed them to conquer the world.
At their peak, the colonies of the british empire contributed 9% of economic output.

heck, even the roman empire was more advanced than 19th century china in many ways.

Northern Africans enslaved over a million europeans between 16 and 19th centuries. The arabs enslaved as many as 16 million from all over the place. Africa itself has used slaves long before the europeans went anywhere near it. And that's why all these places are so wealthy toda-

Oh wait, nope. It's almost as if slavery doesn't make a country wealthy.

And btw, the europeans virtually only used slavery in africa in places it already existed.

If Chinese were murderous maniacs like white people that kill and rape every indigenous people on the planet, do you think white would have a chance? If Zheng He killed and raped like the Europeans did, you'll be talking to me in Chinese.
The chinese were too busy killing each other in what was at least the forth most, and possibly the most, deadly conflict in history, a conflict which would have been even more bloody had the europeans not ended it, all because some chinese idiot thought he was the brother of jesus christ and managed to get millions of backward peasants to follow him. The chinese were consistenly made the bitch of the much smaller nation of japan, and again it was european intervention that prevented china from being

The europeans could have conquered china themselves on numerous occasions. The chinese fought multiple wars with the europeans and could never hold their own, and it certainly was not because the chinese were too kind or compassionate. The only reason the chinese aren't all speaking european languages from birth is because the europeans did not want to have to try and govern such a large, spread out nation and so settled for making china their bitch.

And if you think the chinese can't be brutal, just look at the boxer uprising. A bunch of backward peasants killed tortured and raped foreign missionaries without restraint. These peasants also thought ingesting scrolls with certain words on them would give them invulnerability and subsequently got their arses absolutely handed to them, and the europeans (who were outnumbered 8 to 1) stepped in and once again made china's idiotic empress their bitch.

But anyway, China was an empire. The imperial rulers had no problem killing any number of people to secure new territories. You think places like Xinjiang volunteered to be a part of the chinese empire? lmao

The chinese were much closer to australia than europe. The reason they didn't colonise it (and probably kill all the natives while they were at it) is because they lacked the ability to do so.

Countries, tribes and nations have been conquering and exploiting other groups since the dawn of time. The idea that this is a bad thing to do is an entirely european concept (which is why the europeans are virtually the only powers in history to voluntarily relinquish conquered lands). The chinese certainly weren't of this mindset, and you suggesting that they are is just a way for you to obscure the fact the the Chinese have always been behind europeans. If the chinese were as great as you're saying they are you wouldn't need all these excuses
 

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