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hhmm at this stage BOS is voting for not going..

i guess everyone has their reasons
 

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And if you have an issue with contraception and HIV why don't you go over to Africa and educate them and provide them with condoms? Why don't you donate your time, money and efforts to a people in greater need?

It sickens me that something so positive as a gathering of young people, in good spirit and good nature has been viewed by non-believers as abhorrent.

Fact is I have witnessed the good nature of so many people I would have least expected in their donations of food, time, their homes, their families, their blankets and winter clothes...

I'm aware of poor West Africans unaware of the season in Australia coming in summer clothes and an email going out to parents of the school they were staying at... so many brought in blankets and warm clothes. It's this good nature that you're either refusing to acknowledge nor see as relevant, because it seems so much easier...
 

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Except that that poll is not accurate because I know a few people who voted that they are going are only picking that option as a joke.
 

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JaredR said:
but I believe that allowing children easy access to condoms is opening them to sexual ideas.
you must be reallllllyyyy sheltered...have you ever watched T.V...even if its for half n hour and you'll see all the sex on T.V...in fucking PG-rated timeslots...big brothers friggin on at 7:30, kids are having sex at younger and younger ages...that guy that died a few months ago from a hit and run was like 15 or 16 with a kid...have u ever heard of a doll called barbie...if that's not a prime example of sexualising little girls i dont noe wat the fuck is...small children are bombarded wif sexualised images on a daily basis....most of WYD people are from european countries...they dont even have T.V censorship, so u can imagine their T.V programs...haven't u ever heard of a 12 or 13 year old having sex? decades ago it was viewed as immoral to have sex under 18..look at it now...imagine a few decades in the future...i think its totally appropriate to give sex ed to young kids...if not they'll learn it the wrong way
 

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Catholic missionaries in Africa actually tell them that HIV is not prevented by the use of condoms.
 

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JaredR said:
And if you have an issue with contraception and HIV why don't you go over to Africa and educate them and provide them with condoms? Why don't you donate your time, money and efforts to a people in greater need?
Because what I do with my time has zero impact on the validity of my argument?
It sickens me that something so positive as a gathering of young people, in good spirit and good nature has been viewed by non-believers as abhorrent.
Well the gathering isn't viewed as abhorrent, it's the actions of the catholic church that are. Providing public funding to what is at best a religious celebration is of course going to be an issue, especially for the majority non-catholic tax payers that are well aware of how wealthy the church is.
Fact is I have witnessed the good nature of so many people I would have least expected in their donations of food, time, their homes, their families, their blankets and winter clothes...
Though it is nice of people to donate their families, I don't really see why it matters in this context.
I'm aware of poor West Africans unaware of the season in Australia coming in summer clothes and an email going out to parents of the school they were staying at... so many brought in blankets and warm clothes. It's this good nature that you're either refusing to acknowledge nor see as relevant, because it seems so much easier...
Um, it is irrelevant.
 

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I will never accept the idea that exposing children to facts and issues about sex is a bad thing. It's not. I don't agree that we ought to shelter children from it until they're 16, what's the point? I'm not suggesting we screen hardcore porn to kindergarten classes, just that educating underage kids about sex is hardly going to corrupt their little minds. It's a fact of life, sex is something everyone needs to know about. I really don't get what the fuss is about.
 

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JaredR said:
And if you have an issue with contraception and HIV why don't you go over to Africa and educate them and provide them with condoms? Why don't you donate your time, money and efforts to a people in greater need?

It sickens me that something so positive as a gathering of young people, in good spirit and good nature has been viewed by non-believers as abhorrent.
With all the religion bashing in this thread you guys seemed to have missed that^.

I agree with you, i dont see why do they feel the need to attack what is supposed to be a positive event for everyone. They seem to want to do it just for a bit of attention. If they really cared they'd be out there making a real difference, they're just a bunch of pricks with way too much spare time.

edit: My comment is referring to the condom 'issue' only.
 
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A world Youth day dude told me if i came into the city he would give me eternal life.
I was polite and said see you later.
 

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A world Youth day dude told me if i came into the city he would give me eternal life.
I was polite and said see you later.
Good thing you didn't mention you were gay.
 
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I think it is a good thing that they are promoting the use of condoms, the reality of it is there are many catholic youth out there having sex before marriage, and if they are been made aware that they should use contraception, then that is a good thing, and i think that they will use them, i have heard rumors that there was 40,000 used condoms found at the many accomodations at last world youth day ( not sure of how accurate that is as i said it is a rumor).

And before anyone says anything, yes i am a christian and i do not believe in pre-marital sex, but i think that contraception is a good thing in marraige, but the way i see it is they are going to have sex regardless they may as well be physically safe in the process
 
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^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:
I will never accept the idea that exposing children to facts and issues about sex is a bad thing. It's not. I don't agree that we ought to shelter children from it until they're 16, what's the point? I'm not suggesting we screen hardcore porn to kindergarten classes, just that educating underage kids about sex is hardly going to corrupt their little minds. It's a fact of life, sex is something everyone needs to know about. I really don't get what the fuss is about.
I think that if we did not teach underage kids about sex, they are are going to go do it and there would be an increased amount of teenage pregnancy and STI's
 

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^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:
I will never accept the idea that exposing children to facts and issues about sex is a bad thing. It's not. I don't agree that we ought to shelter children from it until they're 16, what's the point? I'm not suggesting we screen hardcore porn to kindergarten classes, just that educating underage kids about sex is hardly going to corrupt their little minds. It's a fact of life, sex is something everyone needs to know about. I really don't get what the fuss is about.
I think some people (Catholics) are delusional about the fact that yes, there are 16 year olds having sex and have no idea what they are supposed to use to protect themselves from STIs and so forth.
So promoting things such as condoms and sex in general is an awesome idea.
 

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I think you all went to terrible schools if you weren't educated on safe sex practices. I went to a Catholic School from K-12, and in year 6 thereafter we were educated on safe sex practices.

As far as I'm aware Catholics often go to Catholic schools and equally public schools where a similar idea is taught. :)
 

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its cool but why do atheist lives such as mine have to be negatively affected? And why do you guys have to pay to see the pope i can see my god for free coz i dont have one but no one is charging me to believe
 

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auzzzie said:
its cool but why do atheist lives such as mine have to be negatively affected? And why do you guys have to pay to see the pope i can see my god for free coz i dont have one but no one is charging me to believe
The pope isnt a god LOL.
 

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want2bdifferent said:
I think that if we did not teach underage kids about sex, they are are going to go do it and there would be an increased amount of teenage pregnancy and STI's
That's exactly what happened in America.
 
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