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im just wonderin is it better to do 10units or 12units for hsc? im considerin of doin 10units cuz itl probably give me more study time =/ heres the subs i wana do nxt yr:

extension 2 math
adv eng
bio
chem

anyone hav any thoughts on this? =) heard 4unit math is REALLY hard but im jumpin between choosin a bakup subject incase i fail one of the other subs lol
 

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it really depends on the person, but ill have a back up subject just incase if you stuff a subject up, but if youre confident that youll do well in those 4 subjects, then you really dont need a back up and just devote your study time into those 4 subjects. It is less stressful to deal with 1 less subject, but its entirely up to you.
 

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10 units all the way... but only if u r confident.. me im doing 4 maths, adv eng, chem and pdhpe... i happy and im comign like 10 ten in each subject except for my english :)
 

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I do those exact subjects.

How well are you doing in Ext-1 Maths and how far have you stretched yourself in order to do this well? If you feel confident about taking Ext-2 Maths then sure, just do 10 units. Most schools would still insist that students keep at least 11 units and sit for 2U maths assessments until it is certain that they will do well in Ext-2.
 

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If you know that you can do well in all those subjects and be consistent with your study then do only 10, however if you have a tendency to procrastinate - have a subject to back you up, whether that be a 1u course or a 2u - that's upto you but i suggest you do a 1u course. That way you won't have much to study for because the amount of work and classes will be a bit less then the 2u courses. :)
 

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I'm considering doing:
4u English
Advanced Maths
Modern History
Ext History
Legal Studies
Biology

Which means I'll have 13 units...This too much do you think?
 

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I'm still undecided on whether to do 10 units or 12. I want the backup especially since I'll be doing EE2, but at the same time it'd probably be in my best interests to drop the subject I fucking suck at, and spend time I would normally dedicate to Ancient History to my other subjects instead.

My plan is to start off with 12 units and take it from there. If I want I can drop it at any stage.
 

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patty4848 said:
I'm considering doing:
4u English
Advanced Maths
Modern History
Ext History
Legal Studies
Biology

Which means I'll have 13 units...This too much do you think?
I would never do 13 units in year 12! too much work. I had ext history as my 11th unit - i dropped. Too time consuming and the way its marked is just shit. If only the major work was marked externally by BOS...i've had to do essays that were worth 3.3%...doesn't motivate me much.

It also depends on how well you can manage studying and stress. 13 units i would imagine to be quite stressful...but as i mentioned before - if you can handle the work do it. 4u english can also get quite stressful so consider that before doing 13 units.
 
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ssglain said:
I do those exact subjects.

How well are you doing in Ext-1 Maths and how far have you stretched yourself in order to do this well? If you feel confident about taking Ext-2 Maths then sure, just do 10 units. Most schools would still insist that students keep at least 11 units and sit for 2U maths assessments until it is certain that they will do well in Ext-2.
o koo and how are you goin with those subs so far? i sorta suck at math ext1 so far the skoo dint allow me to do ext2 nxt yr but im currently on appeal so il be reconsidered if i get above 80% in my prelim test >_< im always in the 70s range in math ext so far..does that mean il struggle alot if i do 4unit nxt yr? =(

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rooeys2 said:
o koo and how are you goin with those subs so far? i sorta suck at math ext1 so far the skoo dint allow me to do ext2 nxt yr but im currently on appeal so il be reconsidered if i get above 80% in my prelim test >_< im always in the 70s range in math ext so far..does that mean il struggle alot if i do 4unit nxt yr? =(

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It 's very important for you to consider how hard you have had to work to obtain these past results and whether you have enough reserved efforts to put towards Ext-2 Maths in Yr 12. Although it is an extension course, remember that Ext-2 Maths is in fact a 2-unit subject and many would agree that it is much more demanding than the 2U & Ext-1 courses combined. Keep in mind that every subject will get progressively more demanding through Prelim to HSC, and this means that in Yr 12 you will need to work harder than you do now for all your subjects.

I would recommend that all Ext-1 students in Yr 11 should try Ext-2. Just make sure that you have at least11 units so that if you don't enjoy it or if you find it difficult, you are always in the position to withdrawl.

Yr 11 marks are not indicative of your likely performance in Yr 12. I would put the focus on your conceptual understanding of mathematics. You will do well in Ext-2 Maths if you have an in-depth understanding of everything you have learnt so far and if you have the willingness and curiosity to seek out more.

You wanted to know how I am doing now - I'm 4th in Adv English, 1st in Biology, 1st in Chemistry, 1st in Ext-1 Maths and 2nd in Ext-2 Maths. You'd be surprised if I told you how mediocre my ranks were in Yr 11 - take English for example, I was 64th back then. Although that was mainly because I had missed out on Yr 10 and a term of Yr 11 due to sickness, this is still to show you that you can achieve good results as long as you are determined to work hard.

I do regret not having been able to do Physics (the classes were full when I came back to school in Yr 11) and finish Legal Studies (my school put Ext-2 Maths and LS on the same line in Yr 12 so I was forced make a cut). So if it had been entirely up to me, I'd be doing 14 units for my HSC. Nonetheless I am very happy with my current subjects. It can't get much better than doing 8 units for passion, 2 units to suck up to compulsory BOS requirements and have a some spare time to work and socialise. I'm performing well academically, I work 6 hours a week in a library and I have regular picnics, movies and dinner parties with friends. If you manage your time well, it's really a win-win-win situation.

I'd have to disagree with Tanjin in saying that it is safer for a chronic procrastinatorto to have more than 10 units. How is it possible for anyone to manage the extra units if they already procrastinate when it comes to the minimum 10? In my opinion, the more you tend to procrastinate, the less units you should do. At least then you'd be looking at a much smaller pile of work the night before - or yet worse, the first morning of - a week-long assessment block.
 

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ssglain said:
I'd have to disagree with Tanjin in saying that it is safer for a chronic procrastinatorto to have more than 10 units. How is it possible for anyone to manage the extra units if they already procrastinate when it comes to the minimum 10? In my opinion, the more you tend to procrastinate, the less units you should do. At least then you'd be looking at a much smaller pile of work the night before - or yet worse, the first morning of - a week-long assessment block.
lol, good point. I tend to procrastinate quite a lot but even in year 11 when i had 12 units, i still did well. So it's not as if having extra units for back up is a bad option for procrastinators because some how we always pull through. Then again, it depends on the person. I don't recommend a 2 unit course as back up though...
 
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I'm thinking of doing:

4u Maths (if I make it into the class - they are taking top 24 only :()
3u English
2u Physics
2u Business
2u Economics

= 13 units

I'm thinking of seeing how 4u maths go (if I make it in that is), then either dropping it or ext eng.

Or would it be better to keep 13 units if I'm coping with 4u maths?

Also thinking of Ext 2 Eng although, that might take too much time...
 

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ssglain said:
It 's very important for you to consider how hard you have had to work to obtain these past results and whether you have enough reserved efforts to put towards Ext-2 Maths in Yr 12. Although it is an extension course, remember that Ext-2 Maths is in fact a 2-unit subject and many would agree that it is much more demanding than the 2U & Ext-1 courses combined. Keep in mind that every subject will get progressively more demanding through Prelim to HSC, and this means that in Yr 12 you will need to work harder than you do now for all your subjects.

I would recommend that all Ext-1 students in Yr 11 should try Ext-2. Just make sure that you have at least11 units so that if you don't enjoy it or if you find it difficult, you are always in the position to withdrawl.

Yr 11 marks are not indicative of your likely performance in Yr 12. I would put the focus on your conceptual understanding of mathematics. You will do well in Ext-2 Maths if you have an in-depth understanding of everything you have learnt so far and if you have the willingness and curiosity to seek out more.

You wanted to know how I am doing now - I'm 4th in Adv English, 1st in Biology, 1st in Chemistry, 1st in Ext-1 Maths and 2nd in Ext-2 Maths. You'd be surprised if I told you how mediocre my ranks were in Yr 11 - take English for example, I was 64th back then. Although that was mainly because I had missed out on Yr 10 and a term of Yr 11 due to sickness, this is still to show you that you can achieve good results as long as you are determined to work hard.

I do regret not having been able to do Physics (the classes were full when I came back to school in Yr 11) and finish Legal Studies (my school put Ext-2 Maths and LS on the same line in Yr 12 so I was forced make a cut). So if it had been entirely up to me, I'd be doing 14 units for my HSC. Nonetheless I am very happy with my current subjects. It can't get much better than doing 8 units for passion, 2 units to suck up to compulsory BOS requirements and have a some spare time to work and socialise. I'm performing well academically, I work 6 hours a week in a library and I have regular picnics, movies and dinner parties with friends. If you manage your time well, it's really a win-win-win situation.

I'd have to disagree with Tanjin in saying that it is safer for a chronic procrastinatorto to have more than 10 units. How is it possible for anyone to manage the extra units if they already procrastinate when it comes to the minimum 10? In my opinion, the more you tend to procrastinate, the less units you should do. At least then you'd be looking at a much smaller pile of work the night before - or yet worse, the first morning of - a week-long assessment block.
wow u seem to be doin reeally well with your subjects congrats =) is it true that wen u do 4unit math u spent most of ur study time on it? heres my scores my math so far (ITS LOW)

maths ext1 half yrly - 72%
maths assessment task on coordinate geometry and functions - 65%

i screwed up both of these tests..never really took them seriously =S im losin confidence if i can get at least 80 for my prelim test..math used to be my best sub as well. do you think il fail 4unit nxt yr? i hav a feelin i will lol
 

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f3nr15 said:
Considering you do Maths Ext. 2, it would be beneficial.
Mm hmm. Mechanic took a while to work my head around when it came to deciding which forces to resolve in which directions, etc., but I'm enjoying the topic. A bit of challenge every now and then is what makes maths fun.
*jabs at English*

Okay, I hope I did not just make myself sound like a total loser. :p

rooeys2 said:
wow u seem to be doin reeally well with your subjects congrats =) is it true that wen u do 4unit math u spent most of ur study time on it? heres my scores my math so far (ITS LOW)

maths ext1 half yrly - 72%
maths assessment task on coordinate geometry and functions - 65%

i screwed up both of these tests..never really took them seriously =S im losin confidence if i can get at least 80 for my prelim test..math used to be my best sub as well. do you think il fail 4unit nxt yr? i hav a feelin i will lol
Again, like I said, it's not about the marks. How strongly do you grasp the concepts in maths? Do you feel like you simply slacked off with exam preparation (like most people tend to do) but you understand everything thoroughly and are able to clearly explain all the concepts to someone if you need to?

To be perfectly honest, those marks aren't exactly pretty, but if you managed to get them without putting in serious effort then I think you'll be fine in Ext-2 Maths as long as you are prepared to start working hard and stretching out your potential. However, if you had achieved those marks after having studied day and night throughout the year, I'd have to be somewhat doubtful towards your potential aptitude for Ext-2 Maths.

Someone was saying up there that their school was allowing only the top 24 students into Ext-2 Maths. Mine did that as well. They did allow two girls who were ranked outside 24 (but still above 30) to join the class. Both of them were advised to pulled out after a term or two because their marks weren't holding up, but both are now doing very well in 2U and Ext-1. Keep in mind that for a good-but-not-great maths student, there will be almost no competition in 2U. All the Ext-2 students at my school had to do the first two 2U assessments. With us in the rankings, the girl who is actually 1st when compared to the 2U cohort is only ranked around 15-20, but when it comes to doing the ranking order for BOS, the school will filter out all the Ext-2 students out and she will be 1st. This is a really good catch.

Nonetheless, I think you should definitely give Ext-2 Maths a go, but don't be disappointed if it doesn't work out. It's about doing the subjects that suit your abilities and interests, not for the scaling myths and so-called prestige. It's that thing about being the big fish in a small pond. Your attitude towards a subject does influence your performance. You are more likely to do well in any subject if you focus on how to work hard and do well than panicking and telling yourself that you're going to fail. Believe in yourself and give a shot. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
 
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rooeys2 said:
im just wonderin is it better to do 10units or 12units for hsc? im considerin of doin 10units cuz itl probably give me more study time =/ heres the subs i wana do nxt yr:

extension 2 math
adv eng
bio
chem

anyone hav any thoughts on this? =) heard 4unit math is REALLY hard but im jumpin between choosin a bakup subject incase i fail one of the other subs lol
4 unit maths is like doing two subjects, its not too hard but extremely time consuming. i pretty much do the same subjects that you are wishing to do, but its phys instead of bio. it depends on how well you can manage time. i know a few people who manage 13 units and play saturday sport with afternoon training during the week.
 

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