Will Shakespear
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it is the default answer though...State reasons why. 'No' is not a good enough answer.
it is the default answer though...State reasons why. 'No' is not a good enough answer.
Exactly.Particularly considering we wouldn't need 900 pages in this thread if it was that simple.
hahaharant, is she hot? just fuck her. who cares which jesus she believes in.
Blatantly false. I've never had anything majorly unhappy in my life, yet I'm one of the strongest atheists on this forum.god exists til something negative comes up in our lives which we believe we do not deserve and if there was a god he/she would help us out...
That's really over simplifying the reasons people come to hold their beliefs.true, but that's arguable ,sometimes negatives experiences can have a major impact, completely changing views on god/religion . Lets say ur involved in some major accident which severe's your arms and they cant be replaced (just as an example) this means ur quality of life has just been decreased by 90% (example), as if you wouldnt question the existence of god, and the religion itself.. Coz most people never think of god wen anything good comes up in life, only when bad suff happens to them, should listen to that song "why me lord"
he says:
" you should remember god in your everyday doings.. Not just when it gets bad"
Personally I find hard times is when i rely on God more then ever, it is when things are easy i do not rely on him as muchtrue, but that's arguable ,sometimes negatives experiences can have a major impact, completely changing views on god/religion . Lets say ur involved in some major accident which severe's your arms and they cant be replaced (just as an example) this means ur quality of life has just been decreased by 90% (example), as if you wouldnt question the existence of god, and the religion itself.. Coz most people never think of god wen anything good comes up in life, only when bad suff happens to them, should listen to that song "why me lord"
he says:
" you should remember god in your everyday doings.. Not just when it gets bad"
Thanks Captain Obvious. What would we do without you and your amazing powers of observation? [rhetorical question; do not respond]god is like a sort of ideology
it depends on different ppl who got diff images
I had an interesting discussion with a christian friend which basically boils down into this neat summary:
give me an answer, religious bosers!I asked her why the Lord of all creation/God/Jesus (all fictitions aside) demands from his intelligent creations, that were (and lets not forget this) modestly made in his own image, unwavering worship and praise. Was it due to his NEED of praise (i.e. he is low on self-esteem) or his enjoyment of it(i.e. he is a narcissist)?
Because being the perfect being that he is, wouldn't that also imply perfect modesty? And creating the whole universe would make you kinda confident in your abilities, don't you think? So why does he demand worship? There's something rotten in denmark, methinks. (the non-existence kind of rotten, probably)
My friend's uncle is a priest and her family is pretty religious, so it's safe to say she's well versed in this stuff. But, and the religious often do this (I've found from personal experience) she basically just dodged the meat and potatoes of the question and her belief. She jumped into her ecclesiastic safe-zone and pulled the 'mysterious ways' card.
Her: "You cannot define God in human terms."
Me: "As a human, how else am I supposed to define him?"
I suppose she had kind of a point, I was anthropomorphising God a little. But if i was made into his image, wouldn't that inherently impose an anthropomorphisation onto him?
Which brings me to my first, perhaps rhetorical, question, why would God need your praise, acknowledgement and worship?
I would say that it's Christians in general who think of God in the most 'human, worldly terms'. The Christian conception of God often suggests that worshipping him, acknowledging him is, like you said, necessary for salvation and that God is 'good' and 'loves us'.Well the first most important commandment is to fully love God. You mustnt think of this as some sort of pettiness on His part - that's thinking in human, worldly terms, where we are reluctant to bow down to men who are basically our equals/brothers. Rather, think of it as submitting to Truth in its most complete form; if youre a Christian you simply have to acknowledge that God created the heavens and the earth, and he has a divine plan for our very own lives. This is a great thing and is worthy of praise. It cannot be simply ignored.
If you disagree, then youve come to the wrong shop