Islam a religion of peace (3 Viewers)

[SylviaB]

Muslims will claim islam is a religion of peace.

Now obviously a reading of the koran will show this to be patently be untrue, this has already been discussed at length. I'm not talking about this.

what I will say is, the sort of people who will make a big deal about calling islam peaceful, the ones who call themselves 'moderates', do not deny the existence of heaven and hell.

Which I find kind of funny.
If the Koran is accurate, BILLIONS of people are spending ETERNITY in agony, simply for not worshipping Allah, or for a myriad of victimless "sins".
Although they'll never make a point of talking about this, this is actually what they (necessarily) believe.

is this inconsistent with their notion of islam as a 'peaceful' religion (albeit in a broader context)?

Discuss.

 

[Yo1anda]

The Non-Muslims who claim this are really ridiculous.

Usually, they're Islamophiles who want to seem politically incorrect and know very little about Islam, and somehow, they refuse to blame Islam for anything that goes on in the Middle East. "That's CULTURE, not religion, Islam is peaceful, Islam treats women well". Right. How can a religion be so predominant in a region and have absolutely no bearing on how its citizens behave?

Also, a lot of Islamophilic scholars are folks who were raised Christian. It's a nice little social ideal called "the noble savage". It's like when we look at islander tribes and think oh wow, they're so simple, so family oriented, so beautiful.. but really they're cannibals. It's quite easy to favour Islam if you know little about it, or if you need an argument against Christianity.

 

[Jazuzi]

inshallah the people who say that islam is a religion of peace are either:
a) muslims
b) muslim lovers

a) will be proud of the fact that muhammad was an illiterate violent warlord but at the same time tell you it is a peaceful religion
b) actually believes: 1. that it is a peaceful religion and is so blinded and thinks that it is everyone elses fault that muslims are violent, or 2. they only say it is a peaceful religion to try and patch divides and promote the idea that it is the same as all other religions etc.

what I will say is, the sort of people who will make a big deal about calling islam peaceful, the ones who call themselves 'moderates', do not deny the existence of heaven and hell.

then they already have shit beliefs and probably believe that being gay is already enough for someone to be sent to hell, so their criterion for what makes a religion peaceful or not are already warped

 

[BigBoyJames -]

im a true muslim and i take offense to OP.

lol

m8s

 

[cosmo kramer]

Also, a lot of Islamophilic scholars are folks who were raised Christian. It's a nice little social ideal called "the noble savage

The idea of the noble savage actually means something specifically different from that; that humankind in a state unburdened by civilization is intrinsically peaceful, collectively oriented and unknowing of vices such as greed. Moronic white people praise Islam or at least defend the presence of its followers in our countries for the same reason that they do with Mexicans, Aboriginals or African Americans; that their very being in a western country provides some sort of mysterious and elusive social factor that enriches and improves the society around it. The motivation for their ludicrous actions is caused directly by having this idea beaten into their heads the moment that they are born.

 

[Yo1anda]

The idea of the noble savage actually means something specifically different from that; that humankind in a state unburdened by civilization is intrinsically peaceful, collectively oriented and unknowing of vices such as greed. Moronic white people praise Islam or at least defend the presence of its followers in our countries for the same reason that they do with Mexicans, Aboriginals or African Americans; that their very being in a western country provides some sort of mysterious and elusive social factor that enriches and improves the society around it. The motivation for their ludicrous actions is caused directly by having this idea beaten into their heads the moment that they are born.

You described it better than I could, but I was referring more to scholars who preach about the 'beauty' of the koran and consistently yell ISLAM IZ MISUNDASTOOD whilst battling against their former Christian beliefs

Will cite when I find that damned book of essays

 

[mathemalia]

hey all ,

I have read the Quran and i am a Muslim myself. Nowadays Islam has become a barrier in front of the western politics, just the way the Soviet was a barrier few years back. Islam would've not been a barrier if there were not countries like Iran. We have countries like Saudi Arabia, who on the other side, do not even oppose the west. As a result, you have the western world trying to give a bad image to Islam as a whole, and then you have scholars from Saudi Arabia trying to explain real Islam to you by diminishing Iran's position in the world. And amazingly, thats what the west like. Clearly the west's political ideas and systems are much different to the Islamic. But why is that Saudi Arabia's only-apparent extremist Islamic methods match that of the west's and Iran sits on another stone completely different. ^^ thats to tell you whose with who, and who is in fact representing Islam. So you don't listen to every scholar that comes on TV and think he represents the reality of Islam. Because the TVs and the media we are influenced in Australia do not bring proper scholars from Iran, but that of the backstreets of Saudi Arabia who only know how to scream "we are misunderstood" and don't say why or how...and they want to kill you, because they are misunderstood. Funny situation.

The reality of Noble Islam is much represented with other means. Here i see people saying that they have the read Quran. I would like you to turn the second chapter, first five verses. Read it my friend, read it. It is only a guide for those abstain (from sins). It is now funny how you call yourself sinful and want to understand the reality of the Quran. And even more funnier that you want to use the Quran against me, when you have no belief in it. And the climatic humour is when it comes to the Belief in God arguments, where applying scripture as an argument is illogical, but you my friend, are using the Scripture here to prove something ?!

 

[runoutofsleep]

hey i read all those words

i feel dazed and disoriented
lostc onfused
is this trap

 

[TacoTerrorist]

ITT: Ignorant pseudo-fascists.

 

[Muzk]

Lulz.

American is christian - it enslaved and killed off millons of black people.

<- Therefore ->

Christianity is a religion of slavery.

Logical fallacies around here...

 

[Garygaz]

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[SylviaB]

Logical fallacies around here...

you're a fucking retard

 

[Entrant]

First its Quaran.
Secondly, terrorists are a extremists and actually break the rules set by ^ above.
Thirdly, If YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM. You would know that Allah, also recognizes the Christian/Catholic/Jewish God as himself.
Fourthly, you would know that in Islam, it goes
Adam -> Abraham -> Moses -> Jesus -> Muhammad.
jeez. People these days. Do your research please.

 

[SylviaB]

First its Quaran.

koran is the transliteration obviously

Secondly, terrorists are a extremists and actually break the rules set by ^ above.

lol, islam is the only belief system in the world where you have to be a mass murderer in order to be called an extremist

Fourthly, you would know that in Islam, it goes
Adam -> Abraham -> Moses -> Jesus -> Muhammad.
jeez. People these days. Do your research please.

??

Mohammed condemned jesus and anyone who follows him and says they will go to hell

 

[BOS_Negros_Son]

koran is the transliteration obviously



lol, islam is the only belief system in the world where you have to be a mass murderer in order to be called an extremist




??

Mohammed condemned jesus and anyone who follows him and says they will go to hell

LOL Epic FAIL, biggest evidence you have no idea but islam.
In islam if you dont believe in jesus you're not a true muslim.
Just shut the fuck up, you have ABSOLUTELY no idea about this topic

 

[-Lemon-]

Muslims will claim islam is a religion of peace.

Now obviously a reading of the koran will show this to be patently be untrue, this has already been discussed at length. I'm not talking about this.

what I will say is, the sort of people who will make a big deal about calling islam peaceful, the ones who call themselves 'moderates', do not deny the existence of heaven and hell.

Which I find kind of funny.
If the Koran is accurate, BILLIONS of people are spending ETERNITY in agony, simply for not worshipping Allah, or for a myriad of victimless "sins".
Although they'll never make a point of talking about this, this is actually what they (necessarily) believe.

is this inconsistent with their notion of islam as a 'peaceful' religion (albeit in a broader context)?

Discuss.

*face-palm*, this is a classic example of western brainwashing.

I find it hilarious how easily you anglo christian rich kids swallow all the misinformation and bigotry pushed by your hard-right politicians and tabloids.

Islam literally translates to Peace, and it offers by far the most pluralistic and tolerant world view of all religions (including Atheism), not only does Islam teach us to be accepting of diversity and peace, but it directly advocates us to seek new knowledge, Islamic scholars invented modern algebra, geometry, astronomy, etc,..and not because the scholars just happened to be Islamic, but because they where directly inspired by the Holy Koran.

SO instead of regurgitating the slogans beamed down into your little jar-head by tabloid propaganda, why don't you actual open your mind and learn about what Islam really teaches, you'll soon learn that it has nothing to do with terrorism or oppression and everything to do with peace and love and science.

 

[katie tully]

Muslims will claim islam is a religion of peace.

Now obviously a reading of the koran will show this to be patently be untrue, this has already been discussed at length. I'm not talking about this.

what I will say is, the sort of people who will make a big deal about calling islam peaceful, the ones who call themselves 'moderates', do not deny the existence of heaven and hell.

Which I find kind of funny.
If the Koran is accurate, BILLIONS of people are spending ETERNITY in agony, simply for not worshipping Allah, or for a myriad of victimless "sins".
Although they'll never make a point of talking about this, this is actually what they (necessarily) believe.

is this inconsistent with their notion of islam as a 'peaceful' religion (albeit in a broader context)?

Discuss.

who gives a fuck

god in any form does not exist

thus hell does not exist

thus they can write what they want, they're the idiots spending the short period they do have on earth having sex with goats. i think that is writtten in the koran somewhere.

 

[ImAgInE94]

okay so all of you above have so far been against islam. but let me ask you one important question : HOW MUACH DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ISLAM? ONYL WAT YOU HEAR FORM THE MEDIA, AND HOW MANY MUSLIMS DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW?

answer these questions befroe you go around making posts against a religion. no matter what religion it is.

by the way i don't think any of you have actually read the quran so i don't think you claims have basis enough to be taken seriously

 

[ImAgInE94]

who gives a fuck

god in any form does not exist

thus hell does not exist

thus they can write what they want, they're the idiots spending the short period they do have on earth having sex with goats. i think that is writtten in the koran somewhere.

no goats have sex with goats not humans.

 

[Lolsmith]

She meant humans have sex with goats.

Jeez.

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