Staying a virgin until marriage (guys) (3 Viewers)

[Arcorn]

I'm not a historian. But I think if you do a quick Google search, you'll find what I mean. Or, you can go talk to your history teacher at school or uni. They'll tell you or recommend you stuff.

I did when I was at school, there is NO true historical evidence for Jesus. What don't you understand about this?

 

[mahli]

edit is more shit than op cool
do u wanna die or wat mate

Freddie's playing big-boy on a student forum. BOS wasn't meant to be a medium by which you can vent your power insecurities.

 

[freddie_mercury]

Freddie's playing big-boy on a student forum. BOS wasn't meant to be a medium by which you can vent your power insecurities.

all i read from this is that you are a dumb muslim who enjoys making shit jokes about misogyny and honour killings

 

[Riproot]

Wikipedia has links you can click to external sources. Plus quotes, which you can check for yourself.

And that number comes from a figure I read in the World Almanac.

Also apparently Islam is the fastest rising religion in the world, which confuses me completely.

It's the fastest growing religion because religious people are stupid obviously.

yeh and look at the state of the world today

What do you meanly that?
The state of the world today is much better than when christianity was at it's peak.

Well, we have to remember it was 2000 years ago and only fragments of stuff could still be intact today. I'm sure there are documents around that document Jesus' miracles... but perhaps they were destroyed by time.

blind faith that magic documents existed.

 

[Shadowdude]

I did when I was at school, there is NO true historical evidence for Jesus. What don't you understand about this?

Jesus... as a person? So you're saying there is no true historical evidence that even says Jesus was a person? Forget about all the miracles and rising from the dead and whatever, you think Jesus is solely a construct of Christian literature?

blind faith that magic documents existed.

Crap, I worded that badly. It should read "I'm sure there are documents that document Jesus' miracles (if they occurred, that is)".

 

[Riproot]

Crap, I worded that badly. It should read "I'm sure there are documents that document Jesus' miracles (if they occurred, that is)".

Nup, it's the bolded part that makes you an idiot.
How can you be sure of something there is no evidence for? Blind faith.
Mate, you're just proving me right.

 

[Shadowdude]

Someone sees a guy who is dead suddenly alive again. It's clear to me that someone would've written something down or to tell someone about it, etc.

 

[IamBread]

Someone sees a guy who is dead suddenly alive again. It's clear to me that someone would've written something down or to tell someone about it, etc.

If you look back in history, people were always 'coming back to life'. It was because of the people's lack of understanding. Someone could have fainted, knocked out, or something, and people would think they were dead, only for them to wake up again.

Seems more likely that Jesus was a case of this.

 

[Shadowdude]

If you look back in history, people were always 'coming back to life'. It was because of the people's lack of understanding. Someone could have fainted, knocked out, or something, and people would think they were dead, only for them to wake up again.

Seems more likely that Jesus was a case of this.

Lack of understanding? Come on, this isn't 8000BC, this is early AD. Medicine was pretty advanced back then. I'd say advanced enough to figure out when someone was dead, at least.

 

[IamBread]

Lack of understanding? Come on, this isn't 8000BC, this is early AD. Medicine was pretty advanced back then. I'd say advanced enough to figure out when someone was dead, at least.

You'd be surprised. They even made "safety coffins" to help stop it, attaching bells for the people to ring so they could be dug up.

 

[Shadowdude]

And how many times were these safety coffins used?

 

[IamBread]

And how many times were these safety coffins used?

A lot. Though they weren't used until the 18th-19th century.

 

[Shadowdude]

Hold on, I think we're getting carried away here. If we're talking about the Jesus thing, then our topic of discussion should be: "How sure were the Romans that he was dead?", not this.

 

[cutemouse]

"How sure were the Romans that he was dead?"

Probably not that sure since they had guards guarding his tomb LOL.

 

[kfnmpah]

this thread is so off topic.
fucking hell. everything on this site turns into how shit the jews/muslims/minority groups are.

more like bored of tolerance.

 

[thrillkiller]

this thread is so off topic.
fucking hell. everything on this site turns into how shit the jews/muslims/minority groups are.

more like bored of tolerance.

this

 

[Shadowdude]

Probably not that sure since they had guards guarding his tomb LOL.

I think when they threw the spear at him and basically drained his entire body of blood, they were pretty sure he was dead.

 

[Lolsmith]

Oh come on, we have to remember there are very smart people in the world who are Christians - and surely, if a bunch of teenagers could figure out such a basic flaw in their reasoning, then these very smart people would've seen it ages ago.

Obviously there's a deeper explanation we're all missing.

I, for one, am intrigued on how Islamic people can believe that Jesus was not crucified - even though it was drilled into me that his crucifixion was a major world event. And yet you have quite intelligent people who are Muslim, and yet don't believe this apparently 'fundamental historical fact' for some reason.

So who knows.

appeal to authority fallacy

if a professor at university said to you that your red pen was blue, would you believe him because he is a "smart person"?

 

[Mature Lamb]

appeal to authority fallacy

if a professor at university said to you that your red pen was blue, would you believe him because he is a "smart person"?

i'd probably believe him because my life has been full of ~LIES~

 

[Shadowdude]

I wouldn't believe him, I'd do the Socratic thing and ask questions until he realises he's wrong. Or something.

i'd probably believe him because my life has been full of ~LIES~

oi ml, you have to come tomorrow and you can use alcohol to drown your sorrows away