WARNING to all students look for tutors. Most are greeedy, too expensive. (3 Viewers)

[kaz1]

+1 LOL, if this guy has a problem with tutors charging people money for their services, then no one should have to pay medical bills and doctors should earn nothing..

no one does pay medical bills, dat socialist medicine

 

[bladeys]

no one does pay medical bills, dat socialist medicine

Elective surgery? Idk some form of payment for something that benefits the consumer

 

[iMAN2]

I need to post this thread up as after searching through various classifieds and students who only, let me repeat, ONLY graduated in recent yers and still only in their 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th Year of university advertising for ridiculous rates. Let me explain.

First of all, people who say they've taught 14, 924 + hours of tutoring experience, doesn't that already tick you off? It doesn't matter how many hours you've taught, you've only left school 2 or 3 years ago!

ie. I've taught at 10 previous tutoring colleges in the past year, racked up 84, 934 hours, scored ATAR of 99.95, doing med at ****, ranked first in the state in Math, English, etc, got DUX at my school, all my students I tutored last year got 99+, attained a $1 Million scholarship to Harvard...guess what? You're still doing your undergraduate studies at uni!

Second of all, most individual people who advertise here are undergrad students, most likely FULL-TIME students, ie. they go to uni at random times of the week, study then probably tutor on weekends. If you're smart enough to realise by now, they have other agendas. Getting high marks at uni is a priority for them. Tutoring is a way for them to make money. End of story.

The point being is, if they really want to help you and are teachers in essence, they would not charge extremely disgusting rates. If they actually taught at a commercial place, that's understandable but if they make you go to their homes and charge rates like these below, this is what ANGERS me:


1 on 1: $40 per hour or more.

Groups of 2 or more: $30 per hour ore more.


If you put in the numbers on the calculator, if some tutors are true to their words, undergrads from this forum are making at least $1, 500 in cold hard cash tutoring on weekends. At least $78, 000 per year and they are studying full-time. Think about it. Even some of my friends who have worked in the finance industry for 3-5 years aren't getting that yet and thats BEFORE TAX.


To all the students out there, if you're looking for tutors, there are HEAPS out there and please for the life of GOD do not pay ridiculous amounts like above for an undergrad student no matter what their credentials are. High ATAR does not correlate to being a good tutor. TRUST ME. If you don't believe me, see it for yourself. It's marketing 101.

The rates you should be looking at for tutors are if you're going to their HOUSE:

1 on 1: $25-$30 per hour
Groups of 2 or more: $15-$20 per person per hour.

The tutors are making you go to their HOMES, and will be earning at least $25 in cash per hour which is extremely good for them in this economic climate. Anything more, they're just after your money. You don't have to be a genius to realise that if tutors and teachers want to help students, the first thing is that they want to teach you to help you get better. Teachers and tutors all realise students don't have a lot of money and won't charge insane high rates from 1-4 years of experience, especially when they're studying full time doing a completely unrelated degree to education.


Let me say again, I had to post this as I'm completely FIRED UP by the rates students post up here. You guys should hang your heads in shame and not even your credentials warrant such high fees. You guys should seriously f**king look yourself in the mirror. For those students who have been tutored by high rates, it doesn't matter if they really helped you, completely irrelevant. I have a load of friends who at my age and who seen the world enough, with same credentials, are working professional who will teach for less. For those who can't find any tutors with the rates I mentioned above, PM me and I'll happily refer you to one.

BTW, I'm an economist working at the RBA. I graduated in 2002 so I've seen enough.



Seriously so F**King ANGRY with tutors on this forum. This is a forum for students. They are here to learn.

 

[soloooooo]

no one does pay medical bills, dat socialist medicine

You still have to pay the medicare rebate though. It is jsut not as bad as the American disaster of a system.

 

[iSplicer]

+1, exactly my thoughts!

 

[ahdil33]

How the hell can someone make $1500 from tutoring on a weekend, let alone in a week...Even if you charged $50/hr, that's 30 hour's lol.

I guess it's all been said but I don't get why people care so much. If people want to be stupid and won't listen, you let them.

Anyway I think almost all tutoring is stupid. Almost everyone in selective schools is under the belief that you need tutoring to do well, because 'everyone who did well went to tutoring' or something. Other's feel insecure and want to finish the course first. If you look at the people who really did well (as in right at the top), a lot of them didn't go tutoring.

But honestly, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

 

[Carrotsticks]

How the hell can someone make $1500 from tutoring on a weekend, let alone in a week...Even if you charged $50/hr, that's 30 hour's lol.

I guess it's all been said but I don't get why people care so much. If people want to be stupid and won't listen, you let them.

Anyway I think almost all tutoring is stupid. Almost everyone in selective schools is under the belief that you need tutoring to do well, because 'everyone who did well went to tutoring' or something. Other's feel insecure and want to finish the course first. If you look at the people who really did well (as in right at the top), a lot of them didn't go tutoring.

But honestly, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

Because some people take classes.

 

[bladeys]

Because some people take classes.

Thats the dream haha, classes are soooooooooo damn good in terms of $$$ per hour (not that I only care about the money)

 

[iSplicer]

Anyway I think almost all tutoring is stupid. Almost everyone in selective schools is under the belief that you need tutoring to do well, because 'everyone who did well went to tutoring' or something. Other's feel insecure and want to finish the course first. If you look at the people who really did well (as in right at the top), a lot of them didn't go tutoring.

They are under that belief because of the valid fact that tutoring helps immensely.

 

[Riproot]

Because some people take classes.

I don't think taking classes is that great, because like, you have class at school and stuff (unless you're a student that just needs revision) but the kids that actually need tutoring (are struggling) need 1-on-1.

 

[Robbie_Smith]

+1, exactly my thoughts!

Of course you would say that.

You are exactly the sort of person he is talking about. Going around charging ridiculous rates. "First in selective high school". Got Scholarship. Doing Medicine. Got 99.95 ATAR.

You don't give a shit about helping anyone. It is all just a business for you. You are even worse than the people at Matrix!

 

[iSplicer]

Of course you would say that.

You are exactly the sort of person he is talking about. Going around charging ridiculous rates. "First in selective high school". Got Scholarship. Doing Medicine. Got 99.95 ATAR.

You don't give a shit about helping anyone. It is all just a business for you. You are even worse than the people at Matrix!

It's hilarious because you don't know the rates I charge. You don't know the relationship I have with my students. The very fact that I've been tutoring 16+ hours a week for well over a year may say a thing or two about the dedication I have to their results.

I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive. This entire thread is rubbish anyway, the OPs singular argument is that tutors charge "too much". If we charge 'too much', then we wouldn't have any students.

But it's definitely very interesting posting here, gives a great insight into the thoughts of a cross-section of HSC society.

 

[Robbie_Smith]

It's hilarious because you don't know the rates I charge. You don't know the relationship I have with my students. The very fact that I've been tutoring 16+ hours a week for well over a year may say a thing or two about the dedication I have to their results.

I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive. This entire thread is rubbish anyway, the OPs singular argument is that tutors charge "too much". If we charge 'too much', then we wouldn't have any students.

No, but I can speculate. I would definately bet $30/hr+ group.

You do charge too much you scum. It is just that you know you can get away with it because all the asian parents want their kids to get 99.95ATAR.

 

[iSplicer]

No, but I can speculate. I would definately bet $30/hr+ group.

You do charge too much you scum. It is just that you know you can get away with it because all the asian parents want their kids to get 99.95ATAR.

LOL! trollolololol

EDIT: my apologies for going off-topic, I should refrain, but this is HILARIOUS.

 

[Robbie_Smith]

LOL! trollolololol

EDIT: my apologies for going off-topic, I should refrain, but this is HILARIOUS.

You should be ashamed of yourself u scum. What does "trololol" mean? What, I am guessing your rate is even higher and you don't want to admit it.

It's probably $40/hr for groups. 3 students to a group. Effectively $120/hour.

 

[Carrotsticks]

I don't think taking classes is that great, because like, you have class at school and stuff (unless you're a student that just needs revision) but the kids that actually need tutoring (are struggling) need 1-on-1.

My mentality is to see whether they need 1 on 1, or if they just need revision, then allocate them accordingly.

As opposed to just blindly throwing them into classes just to save time and make more money.

 

[Robbie_Smith]

The very fact that I've been tutoring 16+ hours a week for well over a year may say a thing or two about the dedication I have to their results.

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You sure it doesn't say something about the dedication you have to their cash?

 

[4025808]

My mentality is to see whether they need 1 on 1, or if they just need revision, then allocate them accordingly.

As opposed to just blindly throwing them into classes just to save time and make more money.

Same here, I had to split students into one on one because I believed that one needed more help than the other.

 

[mitchy_boy]

I tutor my tutor kid for free!

They're getting 90's now, when they were getting 60-70's.

It's rewarding when you know you're helping them :3.

 

[Fizzy_Cyst]

I don't think taking classes is that great, because like, you have class at school and stuff (unless you're a student that just needs revision) but the kids that actually need tutoring (are struggling) need 1-on-1.

Kind of agree with this. For me, running classes has been great as I have ensured the students in the classes are around the same ability level and I have a maximum of 6 students. However, I have worked at a number of tutoring centres, tutoring students at entirely different ends of the spectrum, in the same class, sometimes 20+ students. It is just not worth it. Teach too fast, the lower kids get frustrated, teach too slow, the higher kids get frustrated.

Kids who are struggling really do need the one to one help, more able students are more suited towards small groups, no one is suited towards large groups.

I cant wait until I actually open a tutoring centre and stick to graded small groups and one to one help.