Paris Terror Attack (4 Viewers)

[Kiraken]

google searching 'pew research muslim' and you get results straight away. It's not some obscure paper that nobody can find.



It shows that most don't support (or rather, admit to supporting) violent terrorism itself, but he didn't claim that they do. Nor is such support necessary to be considered an extremist.



Who's the liar now? He didn't say supporting Palestine, he said supporting hamas.

Which DOES make you an extremist.

If a christian proposed biblical rule of a western country they would absolutely be called an christian fundamentalist or extremist every day of the week

Sharia law as practiced in muslim countries means islamic rules enforced on everybody else and an opposition to religious freedom

Yes, it absolutely makes you an extremist.



>Accuses people of having a lack of sources

> plain just makes assertions

yes that is what he claimed though, now ur just talking BS haha

that's the entire point of his video, to show that muslims sympathise with terrorists even though that very paper he quotes includes data showing the opposite

many people support Hamas due to it's role in Palestine rather than any sort of religious affiliation which is the point im making, for many people support of Hamas is pretty much synonymous with supporting Palestine, there *is* a reason Hamas isn't actually designated as a terror organisation by many countries and international organisations, many of whom are not muslim-dominated either.

And no actually, that isn't the case at all. The Qur'an actually allows for religious freedom (there is literally a quote in it saying "there should be no compulsion to religion"), just because it is applied in an extremist manner in certain countries (all of which have a measure of political corruption btw) it doesn't mean it is a 100% legitimate form of Sharia or equivalent to the understanding of Sharia the majority of other Muslims have.

 

[Kiraken]

Most muslims around the world support sharia law.



Why do muslims complain about trivial bullshit in the west but never mention the absolute religious tyranny of muslim countries?

They never fucking shut up about 'islamophobia' but never complain about the fact that you can be imprisoned for saying the wrong thing about islam in muslim countries.

It's because they're islamic nationalists who only really care about the interests of muslims.

lol where is ur *actual* statistical evidence of this though?

And as i said, such a statement is entirely moot because Sharia law isn't even a *fixed* concept per se and is incredibly nebulous

and lol HEAPS of Muslims complain about about tyranny in Muslim countries, this entire argument is based on a ridiculous generalisation that Muslims don't complain about their own countries or laws in their own countries or religious extremists.

The vast majority of victims from Islamic terrorists are Muslim, if anything the average Muslim is likely to be more hateful and more against Islamic extremism than practically anyone else. Just because they complain about Islamophobia as well that doesn't make them any less justified in doing so because islamophobia *does* exist.

 

[Kiraken]

please make a contribution to this thread or don't post at all.

he is right though lol

 

[isildurrrr1]

google searching 'pew research muslim' and you get results straight away. It's not some obscure paper that nobody can find.



It shows that most don't support (or rather, admit to supporting) violent terrorism itself, but he didn't claim that they do. Nor is such support necessary to be considered an extremist.



Who's the liar now? He didn't say supporting Palestine, he said supporting hamas.

Which DOES make you an extremist.

If a christian proposed biblical rule of a western country they would absolutely be called an christian fundamentalist or extremist every day of the week

Sharia law as practiced in muslim countries means islamic rules enforced on everybody else and an opposition to religious freedom

Yes, it absolutely makes you an extremist.



>Accuses people of having a lack of sources

> plain just makes assertions

Supporting Hamas and supporting palestinians are two different things. Hamas is popular because they aren't as corrupt as Fatah and they're bankrolled by a lot of religious extremists. Money helps people get into power.

I think most muslims around the world will support sharia law in *gasp* muslim countries. It's their lands they can do whatever the fuck they want, you know the whole concept of sovereignty. Sharia is REALLY REALLY broad and a type of legal doctrine/system, that's like asking Australians "do you support common law" well no fucking shit you'll get people saying yes.

 

[Kiraken]

also that very same pew study shows the majority of Muslims believe Sharia law should only be applied to Muslims and non-Muslims are exempted

"Muslims who favor making sharia the law of the land generally agree that the requirements of Islam should apply only to Muslims. "

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

 

[jdennis]

please make a contribution to this thread or don't post at all.

Please follow your own advice

 

[isildurrrr1]

also that very same pew study shows the majority of Muslims believe Sharia law should only be applied to Muslims and non-Muslims are exempted

"Muslims who favor making sharia the law of the land generally agree that the requirements of Islam should apply only to Muslims. "

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

There should be one legal doctrine in each country. It sets a dangerous precedent to legal systems if you allow religious law to apply to specific members. Even for arbitration I do not like the concept of sharia law, use legal system like everyone else.

 

[Kiraken]

There should be one legal doctrine in each country. It sets a dangerous precedent to legal systems if you allow religious law to apply to specific members. Even for arbitration I do not like the concept of sharia law, use legal system like everyone else.

My point is Sharia law isn't inherently an extremist concept nor do the majority of Muslims support forcing everyone else to live by it

 

[wannaspoon]

Muslims have been invading Europe for over a thousnad years. We as europeans have every right to fight against it.

Muslims enforce their religion absolutely in muslim countries, whereas christians countries are called racist for not bending over backwards to accommodate muslims. Talk about equality.

And I love how everybody questions my sources when you post an entire fucking video full of assertions without a single source.

Ummmmmm, the single source is the Quran... I thought that would be the best place to start when justifying the existence of the Islamic faith...

It beats using a Christian, Jewish, et al interpretation of Islam...

 

[Rafy]

Today's News Ltd papers have published the front page of the next edition of the magazine with image of Mohammed on it. Fairfax papers have not.

 

[financialwar]

Why does ISIS have access to Chinese children?

http://www.vocativ.com/world/isis-2/islamic-state-child-soldier/

 

[Gary_Oak]

lol, this is why there should be more comics like those.... because those muslim deserve it, and the muslim will get the blame if anything goes wrong, lol

 

[isildurrrr1]

Why does ISIS have access to Chinese children?

http://www.vocativ.com/world/isis-2/islamic-state-child-soldier/

Ever heard of Uihgurs? There are ethnic chinese muslims around the world you know.

 

[Gary_Oak]

Ever heard of Uihgurs? There are ethnic chinese muslims around the world you know.

Hahaha.... lol at the fact that Chinese government is cracking down on Urghurs.....

 

[hypermax]

Why does ISIS have access to Chinese children?

http://www.vocativ.com/world/isis-2/islamic-state-child-soldier/

He looks like he is from Afghanistan

 

[isildurrrr1]

Hahaha.... lol at the fact that Chinese government is cracking down on Urghurs.....

Maybe because they also commit acts of terror? They're not exactly non-violent you know.

 

[SylviaB]

 

[SylviaB]

the fact that terrorism supporters like this man can live freely in western countries goes to show you how patently absurd any notion of western governments being anti-islam is

 

[Gary_Oak]

the fact that terrorism supporters like this man can live freely in western countries goes to show you how patently absurd any notion of western governments being anti-islam is

Let switch the role, and if we're islamic people, and he was a westerner..... he would have been shot dead

 

[FlyingKanga]

we all know sylviab gets his info from fox news........................................ explains everything

>quotes Fox news

AHAHAHA I'M DYING.. But seriously, you should find a different news source. Out of all the knowledgeable and educated scholars out there, they chose this guy.