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Would you like to point out the exact verse in scripture that says this? The fact is it does not say that at all. That number has been created by research dating as far back as we can see human life existing. This does not mean to say that the earth is 6000 years old at all. The only way you...

Sorry I should have classified more. By darkness and lightness, I am reffering to about the battles that goes on between good and evil. For example, angels and demons.

I didn't know there were different definitions. I am talking about that there is a light and dark realm beyond what we can humanly see.

Yey, I was able to find myslef a computer whilst I am away. I would like to ask a question before I continue however. If you do not believe there is proof for a God, then logically there would be no proof for a spiritiual realm at all right? So can we agree that you don't believe there...

God is not a catch fallback. He is a thought through and logical conclusion based on the questions. Simply because you do not want to consider it as an option does not mean that isn't a possibility. At least the conclusion of a God, will provide a way to answer all of these questions, something...

You are right in saying you left a lacking response. lol. You did not answer one of the questions at all. However I would disagre that the answers to all of these questions from a christian point of view is a simple God, rather God provides the solution to find answers to these questions.

I am not trying to pressure agnostics to one side or another. I do not have that privilege. In my opinion it seems that it would be foolish to stay only an agnostic in that you have not answered any questions. You have only told yourself that it is not possible to prove scientifically that there...

You know what, based on scientific and human logic alone, I would say I am a christian agnostic. Does that send alarm bells ringing?, because it shouldn't? If all you are saying is that God cannot be proved with human rational, then I agree with you. How could God be proved with human logic...

lol, nice. I may get round to PM you one day. Mario rocks by the way ;) And with that I am off, I will be back tonight...probably

No, I know that I have been touched by God. I know that with all my being, not just because of the feelings, but because of the things that those feelings lead me to do. And then, then the consequences of following what those feelings told me. I would also like to point out that there is a...

plz expand, I am confused in your differentiation between the two.

Just because you have not been touched by God, does not mean others have not. To say that their experiences are simply a brainwashing is just not credible. How could you know that it is a brainwashing or not when you have not even experienced God for yourself?

A dream or hallucination is not what I am talking about. I mean an encounter whilst you are awake in which God touches and changes your heart. But how are you ever going experience that when you would deny the possibilty of His existance? EDIT: I know this is a bit late Lundy, but nice change...

Your dead right, which is why if there is any real moral truths, it will not come from this world but from someone beyond it. This is where I believe real truth is inspired from, but since you do not believe that God exists, it would have no impact upon you. Instead you have to suggest that...

That's why I tried to move the main convo into the "Does God Exist" thread, so don't worry ;)

Thanks for the comments MS. I may reply to them tomorrow because my brain feels like mush and needs some rest ;). I am guessing that it will all come down to some proof, or at least evidence of a creator right? If you believed that that there was one, or at least believe in the possibility of...

Yeah in that sense you are right. But whether this actually means it is right or wrong seems to be totally ignored. For example, I could say I feel like robbing a bank, so that is right and morally justifiable for myself. However this does not change the real truth behind it. We need a moral...

I don't know how this works, again I think you refer to your think that a God does not know right or wrong and more than his creations do. Please explain yourself better.................ahhhh Agnostics. lol, My apologies. However, if God does exist, you may not come to know him because you...

So then, if you can say that there in no right or wrong and my morals are defined by my own feelings in life let me give you this proposition. Lets say my own feelings toward morals suggest that I believe there is an absolute truth. That I believe that there are definate rights and wrongs. Who...

Although I have mentioned this before, I don't think that most people would want God to exist at all. Why? The reason is simple, it means we are wrong and need to change. Sure, the promise of heaven is nice, but it a hard path to walk to get their in many ways. It demands a response. While it...