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That's a joke right? Would you call a father insecure because they appreciate being told they are loved? If you think then a God has to be perfect right? If he is perfect how could he create a heaven in which imperfection exists? His very nature prevents such an event from occuring. Hell is not...

Does a father love to be told they are loved and appreciated by their son/daughter? It is much the same situation. If God simply wanted us all to bow down to him for all eternity then he would have. The fact is he didn't, he gave us free will. (I suppose this will lead back to the free argument...

If that were true, you would have no choice but to be worshipping him right now.

I am reffering to christianity as taught in the bible. The fact that there are different sects does not change what the bible says. I think many people have distorted the bible to create their own "super-religion" where they can morally justify almost anything they want.

Could you give me a link to the other arguments in reference to other verses? That one couldn't even be called an arguement.

Well I am only looking from a christian perpective or not. I mean that makes sense doesn't it since the bible teaches that there is only one true God?

Who are you to say homosexuality is wrong or right? Honestly, your putting yourself in a position that only God can judge from.

That is exactly what I am saying. In that while Pascal's Wager does not prove the existance of God, it certainely gives good reason to look at the $5 side of the coin. (Although I would not say that christianity, is the easy $5 you suggest here). To ignore that $5 side of the coin simply because...

Ta, thanks for the linkige :) I'll have a read and get back to you. I fail to see how it is silly, plz expand. Also just for reference, this is not the only section in the bible that says homosexuality is wrong.

I fail to see in anyway how there is no evidence of a God. To me it seems that there is equal evidence. I don't see how you not wanting evidence means you have no faith, if anything it only shows you don't want to believe there is a God and instead would choose to ignore the possibility.

What a fantastic point. But you know, I think the answer is simple. Some priest's will preach what the bible actually teaches, and others will modify it for their own benifit. It is that simple. You mentioned homosexuality and it is a great example. It is mentioned a few times clearly...

Hi all, I am bringing in this convo from the "Sex Before Marriage" thread that I created in love and relationships. It got slightly (well very) off topic, and became far more appropriate for this thread. So here we are, let me continue. Before I start though would just like to thank the...

Yes I would, simply because of the logic I see in Gods plan. For all of the reasons about this issue I have discussed previously I would still be waiting. If I did not have this knowledge or was never a christian (and therefore would not seek that knowledge) it may be a different story.

Hey davin, just letting you know that I am going to move my/our/and everyone else's discussion on the God vs Atheist issue to the "Does God Exist" Thread: http://community.boredofstudies.org/showthread.php?t=96067 Hope that is okay, I will quote you in there I think so you know where we are up...

If you would refute me the logic in saying that God always was in existance then what more logic should I give you in saying that the universe was always in existance? You mentioned the creation of time starting at the beginning of the universe. While I can understand this, surely this is only...

I see your point, and it is a fantastic one. If it is possible to say that God could be there from nothing then it is possible to say that the beginnings of the universe could exist from nothing also right? What an eye opener, I never thought of it like that. There are still a few reason's why...

The reason I threw in the "Big Bang" Theory, is for exactly the reasoning you metioned. It does not prove anything but rather instead explains a period of time. While it may go into intricacies of what happend whilst the universe was being formed, it does not explain why and how it began. In...

I have yet to find another argument as logical and well founded as God. Since I am putting this to the entire BOS forums, anyone is free to share their own serious, personal answers to these questions (This is who I am reffering to when I said no-one asks these questions). My horizons have been...

Well this thread certainally has gotten off topic since I have been gone. This is why I didn't mention anything about my spiritual beliefs. But since we are here, we may as well continue. You know, it amazes me that we can become up tight so quickly even when we have time to compose ourselves...

There is a passage in the bible that talks about not being yoaked with unbelievers. Meaning not to marry or date non-believers. Let me explain the logic of why this is true for me. You mentioned that I may consider dating a non-christian with the same morals. This is an oxymoron however. Surley...