ATAR Raw Mark/Cut-off Band Database! (2 Viewers)

[JT145]

Geog's is actually quite high...

 

[twinklegal19]

The process of alignment is NOT designed to compensate for varying difficulties of subjects. That is what the ATAR scaling is for.

Scaling has nothing to do with the difficulty of a subject, but rather the performance of the subject's cohort in other exams. Although 'difficult' subjects do tend to scale better (since 'smarter' students are more likely to pick them anyway), correlation does not imply causation.

E.g. Your raw mark in MX2 might be in the 60th percentile of the cohort, however if everyone in the state sat that same exam as well then your mark might actually be in the 90th percentile (how UAC actually determines this is an unknown, complex process). Hence your mark is scaled up due to the strong subject cohort, not the difficulty of the exam.

 

[braintic]

Scaling has nothing to do with the difficulty of a subject, but rather the performance of the subject's cohort in other exams. Although 'difficult' subjects do tend to scale better (since 'smarter' students are more likely to pick them anyway), correlation does not imply causation.

E.g. Your raw mark in MX2 might be in the 60th percentile of the cohort, however if everyone in the state sat that same exam as well then your mark might actually be in the 90th percentile (how UAC actually determines this is an unknown, complex process). Hence your mark is scaled up due to the strong subject cohort, not the difficulty of the exam.

Yeah thanks, I know how it works. I was giving a simplified response to the statement at hand, and in that respect my comment did its job.

And the statement "Scaling has nothing to do with the difficulty of a subject" is only true if you view scaling only in terms of the final mark obtained. If you consider scaling in terms of the amounts by which marks change, then it is not true. In any case I talked of what scaling was 'designed' to do (ie. why it is done in the first place) and not about how it actually done.

 

[iPhone4]

Does anyone have v3 of this they can PM me?

 

[Smile12345]

Looking forward to seeing an update!!

 

[Smile12345]

BUMP!! Has anyone offered to do it for 2013???

 

[Praer]

Does anyone have v3 of this they can PM me?

Looking forward to seeing an update!!

BUMP!! Has anyone offered to do it for 2013???

Calm down you guys. The raw marks aren't out for many.

 

[Bims]

For Chemistry HSC 2013, I got a raw mark of 73/100 and that was an 86 external HSC mark

 

[study1234]

Wait, does that mean some sections of the paper could be worth more than others, due to aligning?

 

[Makematics]

For Chemistry HSC 2013, I got a raw mark of 73/100 and that was an 86 external HSC mark

cool i guess i got 73 raw too, since same mark. i can't quite believe that i got that high but ok

 

[anomalousdecay]

cool i guess i got 73 raw too, since same mark. i can't quite believe that i got that high but ok

I must have gotten a 75/100 raw for 88.

Most other years we would have gotten a b6 :'(

And Physics was ridiculously high for 2013 HSC. The b6 cut-off must have been around 84/100.

Same with bio. 83/100 raw got I think an 86 exam mark.

 

[rumbleroar]

Just a Q: what would an 80+ raw in MX2 align to?

 

[anomalousdecay]

Probably about a 94 in 2013.

 

[rumbleroar]

Probably about a 94 in 2013.

Really?! Only?! I swear it was much higher

 

[braintic]

Probably about a 94 in 2013.

Yep, 94, possibly 95.

 

[braintic]

Did anyone compile the 2013 data?

 

[obliviousninja]

Did anyone compile the 2013 data?

Thanks for offering, only like a couple hundred of pages of posts to filter through