Cronulla Beach Incident (4 Viewers)

[Jordan.J]

What the fuck is with this second class citizen bullshit?
The lebanese who are causing this violence, and who cause the violence that plagues the streets of many sydney suburbs are to blame for any racial-profiling which has been done to the dismay of other lebanese.

omg, thats like a guy beating up his wife and then blames his wife

I'm not trying to be a racist. I have no problem with the lebanese people who have integrated and are happy to be australia. My problem is with the ones causing the problems..

I understand you're not tryin to be racist, but you are. Calling any race second class citizens is racist

 

[nedzelic]

no, you've blown it all out of proportion. Leave it alone and others will leave it alone. calm Asians are nice people

i haven't blown it out of proportion; this is what these neo nazis think. look at the videos, they had shirts entitled 'leb and wag bashers'!

 

[malkin86]

what help can the federal government give?

Well, for starters, saying something like this:

"Attacking people on the basis of their race, their appearance, their ethnicity, is totally unacceptable and should be repudiated by all Australians irrespective of their own background and their politics," Howard said.

"But I'm not going to put a general tag [of] racism on the Australian community," he said. "I do not accept that there is underlying racism in this country."

Of course, it being reported at home is too much to ask...

More police down there would also be good, but I don't know if it's really doable.

And just to vindicate myself with the neo-Nazi involvement: "There appears to be an element of white supremacists, and they really have no place in mainstream Australian society," said Police Minister Carl Scully.

Both quotes are from the Moscow Times: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/12/13/252.html

 

[Not-That-Bright]

omg, thats like a guy beating up his wife and then blames his wife

No it's not.... not at all....

 

[Jordan.J]

Let me clarify my point some more...
Although it sux that innocent people miss out due to the actions of others, that is a necessary sacrafice in order to make everyone else safer.

No its not

 

[katie_tully]

i'm not going to touch this with a100ft pole, for fear of being branded racist.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

No its not

Then if it's not, should we allow everyone else to get hurt in order to accomodate a few? No.

 

[katie_tully]

I still can't comprehend how you people justify Middle Eastern attacks on White Australians.

Sunday was retaliation! Why is it, tell me, that racial attacks on whites don't seem to be as serious an offence as white attacks on ethnics? Why?

 

[erawamai]

i'm not going to touch this with a100ft pole, for fear of being branded racist.

You are not racist when you say that youth gangs that use violence should be locked up. The locking up of gangs down south doesn't need people to include 'leb' in their discription. They don't need to be locked up because they are leb, but because they cause trouble and are invovled in gang warfare.

 

[Jordan.J]

No it's not.... not at all....

you said they're to blame for any racial profiling, so I think it is

 

[Not-That-Bright]

you said they're to blame for any racial profiling, so I think it is

Well blaming someone justifiably is alot different from blaming someone with no cause what so ever. People whom have gone around causing trouble in clubs etc etc are to blame for the racial profiling used in response to it.

 

[malkin86]

I still can't comprehend how you people justify Middle Eastern attacks on White Australians.

Sunday was retaliation! Why is it, tell me, that racial attacks on whites don't seem to be as serious an offence as white attacks on ethnics? Why?

In this case, I think that because the scale was different (16 on 2 vs. 5000+ on 10something?) that it was more serious the second time.

Also that the 'aussie' mob hurt the ambos when they were saying that they were down there to protest the bashing of the lifesavers demonstrates to me that this became more to the mob than the bashing. How far that extends, I don't know.

 

[stainmepink]

i haven't blown it out of proportion; this is what these neo nazis think. look at the videos, they had shirts entitled 'leb and wag bashers'!

i wouldn't call it a riot. Its just stupid gang disagreements. Its not "warfare" or anything that cuts close to that.

 

[Jordan.J]

Then if it's not, should we allow everyone else to get hurt in order to accomodate a few? No.

so you can predict the future now. You know what will happen based on someones race

 

[katie_tully]

Jordan, don't be so god damn naive,

 

[Jordan.J]

Jordan, don't be so god damn naive,

Naive?

justifying racial profiling and then expecting no response is naive

These last few days are the consequences of division

 

[katie_tully]

http://www.racialprofilinganalysis.neu.edu/

Racial profiling isn't as completely insane as you have yourself believe.

 

[MuffinMan]

yeah, what has gangs got to do with it?
like for instance, the bra boys wouldnt give a shit what happened to maroubra

 

[Jordan.J]

http://www.racialprofilinganalysis.neu.edu/

Racial profiling isn't as completely insane as you have yourself believe.

Lol, its funny the point you're making and then give me a link to an American website.

 

[veterandoggy]

yeah, what has gangs got to do with it?
like for instance, the bra boys wouldnt give a shit what happened to maroubra

u got a poimt there. at this stage, all they want to do is bash up the lebs, not protect maroubra. so much for vigilante groups...

hey i got information that i am pretty sure hasnt been displayed on tv, despite it happening last night. did anyone hear of a young muslim girl, about 14, getting beat up? well, last night she died in hospital, but does the media announce that? no, they dont, but they DO announce the text messages that are spreading. i havent recieved any, but just by watching tv i have recieved them all infact.