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Does God exist? (5 Viewers)

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physician said:
Once again, ur re-doing what sparked my first retalliation!

U bluntly stated "not only Islam even Idol worshipping was created by man..."

Yet, once again, where's ur evidence? How do u know this?

This is ur opinion, and i respect that, but u cant simply say that Islam, and all other religions were created by man! especially without evidence!
my evidence is based on human nature, that nature of writing books, making movies dramas, poems etc. This typically very humane to write novels, introduce laws, and restrictions. For example in the roman times, everything was written by men, take the aborgines believed to be first human race on earth, they drew picture, symbols etc.

Thus the quran/bible etc seems to be a very human nature, as in human elemental. Books, laws poetry warfare are all human characteristics and are naturally within humans, Of course each human has their own style and can be influenced by other humans and things. My points writing books is very human and has been since we existed.

I dont know if you can this evidence, but it definitely is a characteristics of humans!
 

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has anyone seen godels god proof?




P(psi) P is "positive"
G(x) x have the property God
ess. essential
E existing
• (bullet) Necessary
 

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Lundy said:
I'm not talking about the messages of love and compassion. That's all fine and dandy. The notion that god himself dictated this stuff is not common sense.
i dont know what to say, the whole topic here is 'DOes God exist". and here you are assuming he does and putting something forward that really i nothin to comment on,apart from NO.

There is little to talk about on your topic, or i dont understand which language you are speaking.
 

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nah i cant understand it at all. just thought it was funny.
 

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veterandoggy said:
well, how can we even attempt to understand something if it isnt following a characteristic that we know about?
exactly, i am saying god too is human characteristic something that humans need to believes in, to answers science's questions - that is to say humans made it up.

if newton could come with the notion of gravity and get us to understand it, then why cant a normal human being create religion like chrisitanity?
 

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veterandoggy said:
well, how can we even attempt to understand something if it isnt following a characteristic that we know about?
exactly, i am saying god too is human characteristic something that humans need to believes in, to answers science's questions - that is to say humans made it up.

if newton could come with the notion of gravity and get us to understand it, then why cant a normal human being create religion like chrisitanity?
 

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HotShot said:
i dont know what to say, the whole topic here is 'DOes God exist". and here you are assuming he does and putting something forward that really i nothin to comment on,apart from NO.

There is little to talk about on your topic, or i dont understand which language you are speaking.
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what the fuck are you on about?
 

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Lundy said:
Because aliens are silly fantasies whereas god makes a whole lot of logical sense. The bible/quran says so. Duh.
umm, how so? Maybe aliens are such an advances species , they created us and are feeding our minds with information about everything, while they monitor to our responses? we are just hooked up to a machine , like in the matrix. makes sence and can easily substitute the idea of god.
 

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im seriously so lost here. i think athiests are debating athiests about whether or not god exists.
 

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gerhard said:
im seriously so lost here. i think athiests are debating athiests about whether or not god exists.
haha yeh . i think she was being sarcastic, and i didnt know untill i read back her posts.
 

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Lundy said:
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what the fuck are you on about?
THATs exactly what i want to ask you, but since our communication between us seems to be like, i speak in german and u speak in french,,,
 

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SashatheMan said:
haha yeh . i think she was being sarcastic, and i didnt know untill i read back her posts.
The day I start babbling about how the bible is god's word and jesus is my personal saviour, please shoot me.
 

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gerhard said:
has anyone seen godels god proof?




P(psi) P is "positive"
G(x) x have the property God
ess. essential
E existing
• (bullet) Necessary
That's some fucked up maths :/ I stopped understanding the notation on the second line.
 

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Ive seen it written out in english and its just an unintelligable.
 

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It's a much more complex argument, i've looked into it since u posted it up and there are several problems with it that have been corrected etc, but there are still debates over it...

I'm not sure how it will relate to proving the existance of the christian/muslim god tho, even if there is a creator why does he give a shit about humans...etc etc

Not that i'm willing to conceed the argument.
 

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