Image doesn't mean we are capable of doing what GOD does or the way he thinks.crazyhomo said:i thought we were created in the image of god, so shouldn't we be capable of understanding that which he understands?
Image doesn't mean we are capable of doing what GOD does or the way he thinks.crazyhomo said:i thought we were created in the image of god, so shouldn't we be capable of understanding that which he understands?
time is not a human construct any more than something, say, distance, is. the units were created by humans to break it up, but that doesn't mean there wasn't time prior to humansAnalyst said:All religions agree that the time we see and work on is not the time of God. We have lready discussed that so the big bang might be big for us and like a dot for God or not even that. Time is again a human construct, but God is not.
I think the difference of opinion here over belief can hardly be removed coz its the intention that matters here. I intend to believe in him so I do. You are adamnt not to intend so you dont.
write him an email and ask him. I already have!davin said:I was using an analogy that I felt was a particularly good one. That doesn't mean I have to have the exact same beliefs as him and follow blindly and without thought. Second, I would like to see your arguement that he believes in a god, since quickly searching, I find this quote attributed to him at wikipedia:
"The whole history of science has been the gradual realisation that events do not happen in an arbitrary manner, but that they reflect a certain underlying order, which may or may not be divinely inspired." which does not indicate belief, and also him writing the following:
"there would be no singularities at which the laws of science broke down and no edge of space-time at which one would have to appeal to God or some new law to set the boundary conditions for space-time . . . The universe would be completely self-contained and not affected by anything outside itself. It would neither be created nor destroyed. It would just BE . . . What place, then, for a creator?"
so i wonder how you claim he believes there is a god.
what does it mean?Dr_Doom said:Image doesn't mean we are capable of doing what GOD does or the way he thinks.
It means Man has Gods attributes in very limited capacities, so although we have the attributes, we cant use them in the way god can, unless he wills so. even if He wills,its to a limit hence obviously man can never be as capable as God.crazyhomo said:what does it mean?
in other words, you're making stuff up outright and assumed that no one would pay attention to it, or take the time to show that you have no basis in reality.Analyst said:write him an email and ask him. I already have!
I seriously suggest you should read his work, and not just quote randomly from it. you know what thats called...a word bitedavin said:in other words, you're making stuff up outright and assumed that no one would pay attention to it, or take the time to show that you have no basis in reality.
i also am going to HIGHLY doubt that you had any correspondance with Hawking, given the fact that a. you've not earned any credibility thus far, b. you've not backed up that claim, and c. i don't think that Hawking has the capability to communicate via a computer easily and the time it would take for any response would be too long for him to be answering random emails from people.
http://putercomposer.com/Goal.jpgAnalyst said:It means Man has Gods attributes in very limited capacities, so although we have the attributes, we cant use them in the way god can, unless he wills so. even if He wills,its to a limit hence obviously man can never be as capable as God.
First of all there is nothing wrong with QUOTING from someones work, besides what do you suggest he does, posts Hawking's entire thesis? I think not.Analyst said:I seriously suggest you should read his work, and not just quote randomly from it. you know what thats called...a word bite
Stephen Hawking believes in God? I don't think so.he believes in God, so should you.
lol shut up dude, you try so hard to be smart and fail so miserably.I seriously suggest you should read his work, and not just quote randomly from it. you know what thats called...a word bite
Well in order to trick people, eh?Dr_Doom said:Would the devil write about how to help others and forgive our sins? I don't think so.
the devil works in mysterious waysDr_Doom said:Would the devil write about how to help others and forgive our sins? I don't think so.
Yes, and why is this? Because the NT is watered down, and they don't want to admit that their religion is based on violence and propaganda!Whenever the New and Old testaments disagree, for Christians the NT always overrules the OT.
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It's actually because Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus, which for some bizarre reason (hmm...) just happen to be in the New Testament.katie_tully said:Yes, and why is this? Because the NT is watered down, and they don't want to admit that their religion is based on violence and propaganda!
Just listen to the Pope's Easter speach and you will understand what true Christianity sounds like.
Extreme and illogical.
dont like the pope....katie_tully said:Yes, and why is this? Because the NT is watered down, and they don't want to admit that their religion is based on violence and propaganda!
Just listen to the Pope's Easter speach and you will understand what true Christianity sounds like.
Extreme and illogical.
And who is Jesus? Ah, the son of God. So Christians are willing to dismiss the word of God, for the word of Jesus. Christianity isn't based purely on the teachings of Jesus.It's actually because Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus, which for some bizarre reason (hmm...) just happen to be in the New Testament.
Clearly if it wasn't, we wouldn't be Christians, but Jews. That seems pretty obvious to me. Nothing to do with watering down.