sorry if i offended anyone
- Nov 26, 2008
How is that just in any way? Punishing people because they were not persuaded by an ancient book of what would otherwise be considered fantastical fables? Even if Islam were correct, it is fundamentally irrational to believe that it is true based on the available evidence. Why would a just god punish people for behaving rationally?I think in current times, with globalisation, technology, access to ideas and information, it's impossible for anyone on earth to have not heard about Islam. even the most remote of societies have access to some wifi and therefore some ideas. if you have heard about Islam but choose not to agree with it then you qualify for punishment (if Islam is the correct religion).
Okay, but this isn't just chance, muslims have been actively trying to spread Islam for as long as Islam has existed. You're using globalisation as a kind of cop out, because you aren't explaining why spreading information about Islam was a good thing during the time of most of its history where most people around the world knew nothing about it.spreading the word of god is a tremendously good thing to do in this case because you can potentially be saving someone's ass from Hell if you manage to correct their beliefs or change their worldview.
Even with globalisation and the internet, Islam would not be widely known if people in the past hadn't been furiously (and often violently) spreading information about Islam.
yes, but this is a modern phenomenonI would just be shedding light on a religion that they either misunderstand or don't know too much about
No, it doesn't. It's a nonsensical concept.free will does exist
No, I can't believe 1+1=3. I couldn't "choose" to believe that even if my life depended on it. I'm not "believing it and then realising its not true", I would never believe it to begin with., you have the choice to believe what you want or not. and what kind of example is that. you can choose to believe 1+1=3, but unless you're braindead you would know this isn't true which would then lead you to not believe it anymore.
Okay, so now you're admitting that we cannot simply choose what we believe or not.it's hard if not impossible to believe something that you can establish is 100% untrue based on fact.
They're made by my brain, but that does not mean I am willing these decisions into existence any more than I am choosing to beat my own heart.if you say that free will doesn't exist in belief then you're saying free will doesn't exist in general. which is ridiculous because all the choices you make in life are entirely yours
My brain is making the choice to turn right. I am witnessing the choice, and it appears in my consciousness as a choice I am making, but free will requires that the conscious choice is what is causing the choice to be made, which is nonsensical, because we cannot consciously choose what we consciously think. To do so would mean that we would have to consciously think about something...before we consciously think about it. It's logically incoherent.like you're the one choosing to make a left not a right at the next intersection, nobody can force you to make a right if that's not what you want, as an example
It is not true that a lack of free will means people can't be forced to do things. Our minds are open systems and can be influenced by external factors. This does not mean we are making decisions directed by conscious thought. Our brains are integrating foreign information and adjusting their action accordingly. Our conscious thought follows the decisions made by our unconscious mind, not vice versa.