Does God exist? (38 Viewers)

[moll.]

Moll is just frustrated because he cannot find peace at the center through his own devices

Nah, I masturbate heaps, so it's ok.

 

[Iron]

So it was my misfortune to read.

I hope that youve sorted that consistency problem, guy!

 

[Continuum]

well on 4chan i sorta expect that kinda stuff

but here i didn think so

oh well..

Please refer to moll's post:

When their opinion is blatantly misinformed or when they pass judgment upon something which they know nothing of, then it is deserving of sharp correction. If they persist, despite being corrected, then they deserve ridicule to the highest degree. Which is exactly what I did.

Again, I reiterate, you take it too seriously. This is the internet.

 

[mackento]

INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his Class on the Problem
Science has with GOD, The ALMIGHTY.
He asks one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .
Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to Help Others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD Good then ? Hmm ?
( Student is silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make Everything. Correct ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
( Student does not answer )
Professor : Is there Sickness ? Immorality ? Hatred ? Ugliness ?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
( Student has no answer )
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD ?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD ? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter ?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son ?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes. Faith And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat ?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold ?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events ) Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat,
Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor ? Is there such a thing as
Darkness ?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness ?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something. You can have Low Light, Normal Light , Bright Light,
Flashing Light . . . But if you have No Light Constantly, you have Nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it ? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, then you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you ?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is Flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how ?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant
of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life : just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you Teach your Students that they Evolved from a Monkey ?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir ?
( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at
work and cannot even prove that this Process is an On – Going Endeavour, are you not Teaching your Opinion, sir ? Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher ?
( The Class is in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever Seen the Professor's Brain ?
( The Class breaks out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever Heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, Touched or Smelt it ? . . . No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical,
Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
( The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable )
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . the Link between Man & GOD is FAITH
That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

NB: I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .
you'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you ? . . Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH
That student ended up becoming one of the most famous scientists in human history, Albert Einstein
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[moll.]

NB: I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .
you'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you ? . . Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH
That student ended up becoming one of the most famous scientists in human history, Albert Einstein
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[citation needed]
Cos it's quite obviously bullshit. I've heard this exact conversation many times. None of the other sources had the balls to claim it was Einstein.

 

[Tangent]

INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his Class on the Problem
Science has with GOD, The ALMIGHTY.
He asks one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .
Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to Help Others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD Good then ? Hmm ?
( Student is silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make Everything. Correct ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
( Student does not answer )
Professor : Is there Sickness ? Immorality ? Hatred ? Ugliness ?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
( Student has no answer )
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD ?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD ? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter ?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son ?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes. Faith And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat ?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold ?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events ) Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat,
Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor ? Is there such a thing as
Darkness ?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness ?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something. You can have Low Light, Normal Light , Bright Light,
Flashing Light . . . But if you have No Light Constantly, you have Nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it ? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, then you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you ?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is Flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how ?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant
of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life : just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you Teach your Students that they Evolved from a Monkey ?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir ?
( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at
work and cannot even prove that this Process is an On – Going Endeavour, are you not Teaching your Opinion, sir ? Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher ?
( The Class is in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever Seen the Professor's Brain ?
( The Class breaks out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever Heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, Touched or Smelt it ? . . . No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical,
Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
( The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable )
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . the Link between Man & GOD is FAITH
That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

NB: I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .
you'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you ? . . Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH
That student ended up becoming one of the most famous scientists in human history, Albert Einstein

just sounds like another stupid chain mail. obviously if u chop the prof's head open ull c he has brains.

 

[x.christina]

Nah, I masturbate heaps, so it's ok.

Lol.

Hey Iron. Quick question. Do you fully believe in the 7 Day creation of the world, as explained in Genesis?

 

[kwokie]

INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his Class on the Problem
Science has with GOD, The ALMIGHTY.
He asks one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . .
Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him. Most of us would attempt to Help Others who are ill. But GOD didn't. How is this GOD Good then ? Hmm ?
( Student is silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make Everything. Correct ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
( Student does not answer )
Professor : Is there Sickness ? Immorality ? Hatred ? Ugliness ?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
( Student has no answer )
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD ?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD ? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter ?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son ?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes. Faith And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat ?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold ?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn't.
( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events ) Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat,
Mega Heat, White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat. But we don't have anything called Cold. We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as Cold. Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold. Heat is Energy. Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor ? Is there such a thing as
Darkness ?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness ?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the Absence of Something. You can have Low Light, Normal Light , Bright Light,
Flashing Light . . . But if you have No Light Constantly, you have Nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it ? In reality, Darkness isn't. If it is, then you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you ?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is Flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how ?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality. You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought. It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant
of the fact that Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing. Death is Not the Opposite of Life : just the Absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you Teach your Students that they Evolved from a Monkey ?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir ?
( The Professor shakes his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument is going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at
work and cannot even prove that this Process is an On – Going Endeavour, are you not Teaching your Opinion, sir ? Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher ?
( The Class is in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever Seen the Professor's Brain ?
( The Class breaks out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever Heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, Touched or Smelt it ? . . . No one appears to have done so. So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical,
Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have No Brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
( The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable )
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . the Link between Man & GOD is FAITH
That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

NB: I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so .
you'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you ? . . Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH
That student ended up becoming one of the most famous scientists in human history, Albert Einstein
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Sounds like bullshit about Einstein bit, but interesting convo.

 

[bell531]

Go away. You're annoying and immature. My post was entirely valid. Stupidity deserves ridicule.

But is ridicule an adequate "cure" for stupidity? Or is it just too fun to resist?

And @mackento, was it really necessary to add the Einstein part to the end of that conversation? Utter ridiculousness.

 

[Adilis]

lolwhut?
You're a goddam retard and you completely ignored the first half of my post, which showed that God openly condones genocide. So shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

hahaha,wow well someone gets feisty alright.
but you can say whatever you like...except from the part where you tell me the stfu and get the fk out. cos i wont.

sorry to disappoint you.

and haha guss.

 

[Adilis]

Hahahaha but nothing goes wrong with my life. I get everything my way. That's why I'm an atheist. I am my own god.
And he wasn't innocent. (Willful) Stupidity is a crime.

lol.
i am my own god. look i respect that you dont like the idea of religion or the fact that i personally believe in God. I know im not the smartest person on earth, i dont know everything from the bible, and im probably one of the crappiest and hypocritical christians. but seriouslyyyyyy whats with the attitude, calmmmmmm your farmmmmmm woman. or man. i dont know. but seriouslyy im just putting my opinion out there, you dont have to like it..if you dont like it..im fine with that..if you do well i dont know im fine with that too.

oh and stop being so pissed at gus.

 

[GUSSSSSSSSSSSSS]

lol ty ryuzaki sakuni

tell fuji senpai "hi" for me lol

 

[Iron]

Lol.

Hey Iron. Quick question. Do you fully believe in the 7 Day creation of the world, as explained in Genesis?

Na Catholics dont insist on reading that literally because the evidence shows that the world was formed over a longer time. It's very beautiful as poetry

 

[greekgun]

lol.
i am my own god. look i respect that you dont like the idea of religion or the fact that i personally believe in God. I know im not the smartest person on earth, i dont know everything from the bible, and im probably one of the crappiest and hypocritical christians. but seriouslyyyyyy whats with the attitude, calmmmmmm your farmmmmmm woman. or man. i dont know. but seriouslyy im just putting my opinion out there, you dont have to like it..if you dont like it..im fine with that..if you do well i dont know im fine with that too.

oh and stop being so pissed at gus.

calm ur farm?

 

[Adilis]

calm ur farm?

lolz just my way of saying calm down

 

[x.christina]

Na Catholics dont insist on reading that literally because the evidence shows that the world was formed over a longer time. It's very beautiful as poetry

I agree with you there. I remember back in primary school, where I was even more gullible than I am now, me and my friend trying to work out how far down the track we were related to Eve... o_o

Yes I was a strange child, in a secular institution that provided mediocre education. I need a better education

Just realised Iron, you're doing Arts/Law. I aspire to that course.

 

[Iron]

b less slutty?
or more idk

 

[chsjtb09]

Na Catholics dont insist on reading that literally because the evidence shows that the world was formed over a longer time. It's very beautiful as poetry

Dont get me wrong, its a great 'poem', however this is simply another factor of the bible and of this religion that is simply 'looked over' or ignored once it has been disproved. What happens when (speaking hypothetically) all parts of the bible have been disproved? What do you do then? Nothing more you can alter to keep the 'believers' donating to your churches after the 'Updated Bible' becomes no more than 1 page.

 

[x.christina]

what, and like sleep with the Board to get a high UAI to get into uni?

Good idea! Thanks dude.

EDIT: canz i sleep witchou instead?

 

[Iron]

Dont get me wrong, its a great 'poem', however this is simply another factor of the bible and of this religion that is simply 'looked over' or ignored once it has been disproved. What happens when (speaking hypothetically) all parts of the bible have been disproved? What do you do then? Nothing more you can alter to keep the 'believers' donating to your churches after the 'Updated Bible' becomes no more than 1 page.

Well it wasnt disproven. The premise of creation remains the same ('in the beginning God creared the heaven and the earth'), though the method in which some believed that this was brought about has been refined and updated. At no point did we ever claim that "if this is not the literal truth, then we are finished as a faith" - rather we welcome the developed reason and are frank about the notion that the method is not as important as the premise