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you's are all fucking losers. I just had this brilliant idea, how bout get a life. fucktarts every one of yous
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F**k Camden is stupid Part II: The Proposed Islamic Cemetery (1 Viewer)
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So are you anti-muslim or pro-freedom?danielfrog said:
I haven't been keeping track of this debate cos I only just found it and I can't be bothered reading 30 pages of it to see what its all about, but I'm guessing its about Camden ppl not wanting that Muslim school in Camden.
Well I don't blame them.
Firstly, the whole idea of the Muslim school is obviously to antagonise the traditional Australian population that resides in Camden. Camden has a reputation for being traditionalist and the Muslims obviously wanted to antagonise them. After all, there is no Muslim population in Camden are anywhere near it for that matter. So why build a damn school?
Secondly, we all have a right to have a say in who we want being part of our community. I'm sure we can all name a lot of different people/kinds of people who we wouldn't want to live with or near. It just so happens that the people of Camden don't want these people being in their community. There's nothing wrong with that.
Thirdly, if Muslims don't want to be rejected by other communities then why don't they start trying to fit in a little more and integrate. It might seem like a bit of a paradox in that I'm saying they should try to fit in, yet people are rejecting them and not giving them the chance, but its their own fault in the first place. The mono-cultural ghettos that they've established in Lakemba etc represent self-segregation and an unwillingness to integrate. Maybe if they'd made a bit more effort in the past, people wouldn't be so hard on them. So now I guess if they want to be accepted, they've got to start small and work their way up. Maybe make their children participate in sporting teams outside of Lakemba etc and work from their so that they get accepted in the community. Learning english (the official language of Australia) would also be a good idea. Also, a general willingness to cooperate in the community would be excellent. I know a policeman who works in Middle-Eastern Crime and says that these people simply don't participate. They hide and provide bogus alibis for murderers and rapists etc, simply because they share the same race/religion.
Well, Camden doesn't want these type of people in their community. I completely agree with them.
And finally, I don't see why the school had to be rejected on planning grounds. If it was rejected simply because they don't want a Muslim school, there's no problem with that. If the majority of Camden residents don't want it, then thats the way it goes. We are a democracy aren't we?
Well I don't blame them.
Firstly, the whole idea of the Muslim school is obviously to antagonise the traditional Australian population that resides in Camden. Camden has a reputation for being traditionalist and the Muslims obviously wanted to antagonise them. After all, there is no Muslim population in Camden are anywhere near it for that matter. So why build a damn school?
Secondly, we all have a right to have a say in who we want being part of our community. I'm sure we can all name a lot of different people/kinds of people who we wouldn't want to live with or near. It just so happens that the people of Camden don't want these people being in their community. There's nothing wrong with that.
Thirdly, if Muslims don't want to be rejected by other communities then why don't they start trying to fit in a little more and integrate. It might seem like a bit of a paradox in that I'm saying they should try to fit in, yet people are rejecting them and not giving them the chance, but its their own fault in the first place. The mono-cultural ghettos that they've established in Lakemba etc represent self-segregation and an unwillingness to integrate. Maybe if they'd made a bit more effort in the past, people wouldn't be so hard on them. So now I guess if they want to be accepted, they've got to start small and work their way up. Maybe make their children participate in sporting teams outside of Lakemba etc and work from their so that they get accepted in the community. Learning english (the official language of Australia) would also be a good idea. Also, a general willingness to cooperate in the community would be excellent. I know a policeman who works in Middle-Eastern Crime and says that these people simply don't participate. They hide and provide bogus alibis for murderers and rapists etc, simply because they share the same race/religion.
Well, Camden doesn't want these type of people in their community. I completely agree with them.
And finally, I don't see why the school had to be rejected on planning grounds. If it was rejected simply because they don't want a Muslim school, there's no problem with that. If the majority of Camden residents don't want it, then thats the way it goes. We are a democracy aren't we?
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So you're anti muslim, then?m3d1na said:
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How dare you tar everyone in Lakemba with the same brush!neafoo said:
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Oh ho. What a dumb shit you are. If you don't know much about wtf is going on, just how do you come to the conclusion that you have a you know whats happening? Instead of sitting back smug and assuming this or that about other people, how about confirming by either observing or asking questions and then come up with a conclusion?JB27990 said:
please prove this antagonistic attitude put forward by the school developers that you speak of.
The above is confirmation of idiocy. Nothing more, nothing less. Since you admit yourself that you know little about the topic at hand, there's no point in discussing this matter with you.
agree
Do yourself a favour. FUCK OFF, while your at it, read a book. If someone is making a claim of being a land for the free and democracy rules and yet pass laws that are discriminatory or limit a particular segment's freedom, then my friend, that is not democracy nor freedom. that is discrimination.JB27990 said:
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awwwwww. Poor Slickstar has no idea how to make an argument without paying someone out and using foul language.
You asked me for proof of the Muslim antagonistic attitude, yet I offered it to you as a theory to explain the absolute idiocy of building a 1000+ pupil school in an are with no Muslims. Just a theory. Yet if you want proof as to general Muslim antagonism , I suggest you read the Koran where it says quite explicitly and repeatedly that Islam seeks to spread across the world and rule over all other people and religions. That enough evidence for you?
Also, you claim that a democracy that hedges people's rights and freedoms can't be a democracy at all. Well, until 1975 Australia had in place a White Australia policy, is that to say that Gough Whitlam was the true founder of Australian democracy? And you will notice that limiting freedoms is central to the effecte running of a society. Read some Mary McAleese. Laws actually limit my freedom of speech in that I'm not allowed to racially abuse someone etc. Thats my freedom of speech limited. Also, you will notice that everything in society is based on discrimination. If a person wants to come to this country yet he has a strong criminal record, he won't be allowed it. Thats discrimination, I can name a million other instances if necessary. There will always be discrimination, it is necessary to society.
Finally, I never said I know nothing about this topic. I know quite a bit about the uproar about the Muslim school. All I said was that I haven't been following the debate on THIS forum but will just assume what its about. All I've done is offered my point of view. Thats all.
You asked me for proof of the Muslim antagonistic attitude, yet I offered it to you as a theory to explain the absolute idiocy of building a 1000+ pupil school in an are with no Muslims. Just a theory. Yet if you want proof as to general Muslim antagonism , I suggest you read the Koran where it says quite explicitly and repeatedly that Islam seeks to spread across the world and rule over all other people and religions. That enough evidence for you?
Also, you claim that a democracy that hedges people's rights and freedoms can't be a democracy at all. Well, until 1975 Australia had in place a White Australia policy, is that to say that Gough Whitlam was the true founder of Australian democracy? And you will notice that limiting freedoms is central to the effecte running of a society. Read some Mary McAleese. Laws actually limit my freedom of speech in that I'm not allowed to racially abuse someone etc. Thats my freedom of speech limited. Also, you will notice that everything in society is based on discrimination. If a person wants to come to this country yet he has a strong criminal record, he won't be allowed it. Thats discrimination, I can name a million other instances if necessary. There will always be discrimination, it is necessary to society.
Finally, I never said I know nothing about this topic. I know quite a bit about the uproar about the Muslim school. All I said was that I haven't been following the debate on THIS forum but will just assume what its about. All I've done is offered my point of view. Thats all.
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Hahahahahhhhahahahahahah he got banned hahahahahahahahahaha
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the guy is a tool. thank god he god banned.Captain Hero said:
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No your slickstar account got banned you shitshoveller.
Oh yes dont u just love that? now your banned too
all u haters dont belong here let me ask u..what about the catholic, christian...jewish skools around? yet muslims dont have the right to have their own skool? i heard of a possible proposal of a xtian skool in camden and the residents have not complained..there is no need t be rascist u rednecks
all u haters dont belong here let me ask u..what about the catholic, christian...jewish skools around? yet muslims dont have the right to have their own skool? i heard of a possible proposal of a xtian skool in camden and the residents have not complained..there is no need t be rascist u rednecks
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... Wait you just ripped on people for being 'racist' against other religions and then racially insulted someone for being Jewish in the next sentence.
What the fuck is wrong with you? That is the most glaring case of racism that has ever existed other than maybe saying 'don't be racist to niggers'.
Holy fuck.
lols camden is racist bogans...
and now some rich mosman discriminatory bogans....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_R6DfwqUSuY
just listen to their bs lol..
and now some rich mosman discriminatory bogans....
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_R6DfwqUSuY
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god bless Australia. god bless tolerance. god bless freedom.
PS: only Christians god is allowed to bless.
PS: only Christians god is allowed to bless.
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its those bloody fob muslims that came here years ago and make small communities with other muslims, and how they all hang together, not mixing with the wider community. If they befriended the locals in this country then most of the current problems wouldnt exist.
i absolutely hate it when i see other paki's at unsw who ONLY hang around paki's and dont integrate, i dont associate myself with them, i stay away from em, i got my own set of friends, white aussies, greeks, some asians (...thats about it)
Those original fob's didnt wanna integrate, so now in the present people dont want em to integrate, simply due to the representation of islam in the media (all this terrorist extremist shit going on) and because of lack of knowledge of the teachings leading to beliefs of false statements, eg convert or kill, all muzzies should suicide bomb infidels, women have no rights (all which are bullshit btw).
[EDIT: also, fark! what do u gotta do to get banned here!?]
i absolutely hate it when i see other paki's at unsw who ONLY hang around paki's and dont integrate, i dont associate myself with them, i stay away from em, i got my own set of friends, white aussies, greeks, some asians (...thats about it)
Those original fob's didnt wanna integrate, so now in the present people dont want em to integrate, simply due to the representation of islam in the media (all this terrorist extremist shit going on) and because of lack of knowledge of the teachings leading to beliefs of false statements, eg convert or kill, all muzzies should suicide bomb infidels, women have no rights (all which are bullshit btw).
[EDIT: also, fark! what do u gotta do to get banned here!?]
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