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I accelerated in 3U but only got an E3 D: Have I got any hope of getting an E3 in Extension 2?


I don't know if this would be the correct place to post but how much benefit would it be for me to repeat 3U?

I looked at the thread
http://community.boredofstudies.org/236/hsc-tips/8895/hsc-tips-harder-3u.html
and it seems that I need to know everything really well so I'd need to continue studying the 3U content even without repeating, right?

I'm still undecided because I have points for and against D: I think I can do better, but I'm worried about the amount of work I'd need to put into Maths. I basically neglected all my Preliminary subjects last year for the Maths HSC :S
 

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1. Your 3u marks should be up around 70%. This is by no means set in stone, because of varying test difficulties etc, but if, for example, you're getting 40% in 3u I'd strongly advise you against 4u.
I agree/disagree with the above. My top mark in Preliminary 3U was 92%, and the rest were lying in the 50%/60% range. With extreme thanks to my English tutor, I decided to pick it up and at least give it a go (no harm in trying). My mark wasn't flash in the first HSC 4U assessment (68%), but I came 1st :).

Like withoutaface stated, it depends with varying test difficulties. So look at your ranking in 2U/3U, and then decide if you're capable. Don't do it for the scaling. The workload so far is really heavy, especially with 3 sciences. You must enjoy maths to do it, and if you believe you can do it, go for it!
 
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you know how marks are aligned and then scaled again?

would it be better to say, get 99 in 2U as your hsc mark, or to get say 90 in 4U?
 

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If you get 90% in 4u, scaled HSC mark that is, you're looking at around 50% raw mark for 4u, where as 2u, you're looking at much more competition thus u probably need the 80s+.
 

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then why wouldnt all the smartish 4u people do 2u and 3u instead?
It's because if you do well in Maths, you're better off getting 4 units of pretty good scores as opposed to just 3 units of crash hot scores...

e.g. Suppose a student gets 98 in 2 unit and 95 in Ext1, and then gets 95 in Ext2.
According to the scaled data in 2008:
98 in 2 unit = scaled mark of 94.2
95 in Ext1 = scaled mark of 94.8
95 in Ext2 = scaled mark of 97.2

Note that 1 unit courses have a maximum aggregate of 50 and 2 unit courses have a maximum aggregate of 100.

If this person stuck with 3 units of Maths:
Total maths scaled marks = 94.2 + 47.4 = 141.6 (out of 150)
Average maths scaled mark (per unit) = 141.6/3 = 47.2 per unit

If this person stuck with 4 units of Maths:
Total maths scaled marks = 94.8 + 97.2 = 192.0 (out of 200)
Average maths scaled mark (per unit) = 192/4 = 48.0 per unit

Hence in this scenario, the student was better off taking Ext2 Maths...
 

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Im in yr 11 atm and doing my maths 2U and 3U HSC this year
currently thinking of doing 4U next year but unsure of the work load, time and effort ill need to put into it

so anyone have any advice?

because im doing accelerated maths, ive really been neglecting my other subjects so im not sure whether i should do 4u

any people who were/are in the same situation as me??
 

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I have just received my Maths half yearly back. I ranked 2nd place in 2 unit and 3rd place in 3 unit, 98% in 2 unit and 95% in 3 unit.

My school accepts around 60 students in 4 unit every year. I want to do 4 unit, I like Maths and stuff, but I'm not too sure because apparently you have to drop 2 unit Maths to do it. As you can see, I'm much better in 2unit maths than 3 unit. Should I do it?
 

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I have just received my Maths half yearly back. I ranked 2nd place in 2 unit and 3rd place in 3 unit, 98% in 2 unit and 95% in 3 unit.

My school accepts around 60 students in 4 unit every year. I want to do 4 unit, I like Maths and stuff, but I'm not too sure because apparently you have to drop 2 unit Maths to do it. As you can see, I'm much better in 2unit maths than 3 unit. Should I do it?
 

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I have just received my Maths half yearly back. I ranked 2nd place in 2 unit and 3rd place in 3 unit, 98% in 2 unit and 95% in 3 unit.

My school accepts around 60 students in 4 unit every year. I want to do 4 unit, I like Maths and stuff, but I'm not too sure because apparently you have to drop 2 unit Maths to do it. As you can see, I'm much better in 2unit maths than 3 unit. Should I do it?
You don't 'drop' 2 unit in the usual sense. You still go to class, and do the work, but 2 unit doesn't appear on your Record of Subjects after the HSC. This is because, once you pick up 4 unit, 3u turns into a subject worth 2 units and 4u is worth 2 units as well. As a result, you will get a mark out of 100 for 3u and 4u.
Depending on your school, you may still be required to take the 2u assessment tasks, just incase you drop. When I accelerated, I had to do the year 12 2u, 3u, and 4u tasks, as well as the year 11 2u and 3u tasks just incase I dropped.

Looking at those marks, there is no reason not to do it.
 

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I have just received my Maths half yearly back. I ranked 2nd place in 2 unit and 3rd place in 3 unit, 98% in 2 unit and 95% in 3 unit.

My school accepts around 60 students in 4 unit every year. I want to do 4 unit, I like Maths and stuff, but I'm not too sure because apparently you have to drop 2 unit Maths to do it. As you can see, I'm much better in 2unit maths than 3 unit. Should I do it?
You should definitely do it! There are really two main reasons, firstly, you clearly are really good at maths, secondly, 4 unit will provide you more of a challenge, it will be more interesting.

Also, a mark in the high 80s/ low 90s for extension 2 is like the equivalent of top 90s (like 98/99/100) in 2unit.

So you cant really say you are better at Mx1 than maths 2 unit mark wise because its like comparing apples and oranges.

But in conclusion, DO IT!
 

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Thanks guys. I think I'll try it. Yeah, my school makes us do 2unit assessments in Term 4, so basically I have one term to decide whether I want to keep it or not.
 

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i wanna be honest with you guys, i scored 100% in 3U and 97% in 4U and i was only in year 11 they call ths accelerating for us. anyway im currently in year 12 and i only have 3 subjects because maths is out of the way. 4U is hard and took ALL my time but i was lucky to be only in year 11 and now im in year 12 doing physics chemistry and english which is so easy when maths is gone.

point is 4U is hard and takes losts of time but as long as u studyy hardd ul be fine. my name is Michael Malati if you guys wanna look me up. and the person that helped me with this success is Wagdy Michael. thanks mr michael......


< btw hsc is this year not 2010 i wasnt bothered changing it
 

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i wanna be honest with you guys, i scored 100% in 3U and 97% in 4U and i was only in year 11 they call ths accelerating for us. anyway im currently in year 12 and i only have 3 subjects because maths is out of the way. 4U is hard and took ALL my time but i was lucky to be only in year 11 and now im in year 12 doing physics chemistry and english which is so easy when maths is gone.

point is 4U is hard and takes losts of time but as long as u studyy hardd ul be fine. my name is Michael Malati if you guys wanna look me up. and the person that helped me with this success is Wagdy Michael. thanks mr michael......


< btw hsc is this year not 2010 i wasnt bothered changing it
You spelled your surname wrong. It ends with a 'y' and not an 'i'.
 

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