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im just being realistic! thats what the people want at the moment! you cant go in with ideas of change and reform that people DONT want, well not until you're elected, and until then you need to keep up appearances and do the 'right thing'. it might be a pain in the ass but sorry to tell you, the majority of australia is conservative and NOT green, and would rather see a more right than left government.
and while there are issues that need to be cleaned up, you cant campaign for things people wont vote for then have a whinge later on why you didnt get elected! its a simple as that!
 

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If you want some conservative old out of touch eyebrow lord running the country your in the right place. Your a lib through and through.
 

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We need a third political party, designed to appeal directly to the younger population.

Also, Julia Gillard is a feminazi who has no interest in achieving equal rights for men, so I would never support her for Prime Minister.
 

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im most certainly not a lib. i want to get labor elected.
but i think the way to do it is not radical ideas from the start but rather getting people on your side etc etc
then when you're elected, do what you want.
the end.
thats the truth, its what every party does.
 

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strong, smart and elloquent--- like John Howard? 3 term and he doesnt have all these qualities.
In Australia most people admire the underdog, the fighting spirit, some one who has strong beliefs... maybe more people should vote for that
 

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whitlam had the presence! he knew what to say at the right time, he knew how to present himself. latham downright doesnt. he takes things as a bit of a joke, and he showed that with the tsunami thing.
whitlam also went down the gurgler because of his policies, though he did do so many things that i wholeheartedly agree with.
howard isnt an amazing leader, like i said he doesnt have much of an 'image'. thats why labor simply need to put someone who looks and acts the part in there, and they'd win hands down.
 

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Labor is constantly whimping out and trying to compromise to please the voting public but thats the wrong approach to take. Howard has appealed to the worst in people: their hateful, fearful and redneck side.
Labor shouldnt follow suit but rather offer an alternative which many people long for as evidenced by the growing support for the greens. Latham has good ideas regarding education, health. but the public couldn't give a shit because Howards got them by the throat with fear. Just look at the last election which he won on yet another lie: this time about the economy
 

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well the economy thing is semi-right but mostly it was played up too much, it was a fear tactic, you're right.
thats basically what im saying, labor need someone who is STRONG, but someone who isnt too radical. someone who can show people a decent alternative, and that wouldnt take too much. but also someone with good PR, and a decent set of people behind them.
 

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That's why voting should be optional so people who actually WANT to vote. Those that make informed decisions would be the ones voting. Not these idiots that belive everything that the liberals say.... ohhh no dont raise the interest rates! The goverment doesnt control the interest rates!
 

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Nah. Votings gotta be compulsory. Just look at how fucked up America's voting system is. Youd have all the wealthy educated being represnted but not the repressed minorities
 

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Slide Rule said:
I'm not trying to be funny, however we live in Australia and we use colour not color, among other things.

It doesn't matter an iota that the party's official name uses the American spelling - we live in Australia, not America, and we should use the Australian spelling.

Does that mean I think the official name should be changed? Yes. Does that mean I think Jesus! is any less of a moron? No.
The spelling 'Color' is now accepted in Australian dictionaries.
 

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miaomiao said:
If you want some conservative old out of touch eyebrow lord running the country your in the right place. Your a lib through and through.

She is being a realist. The older population of Australia on the whole are not going to vote for someone who is young.
 

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latham wont get the top job



edit: how can you say latham has good pr when he fucked up the tsunami issue?!
 

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I'm talking about poor, uneducated, black people- nah they don't. And if it was introduced in Australia Aboriginal junkies hanging out in redfern probably wouldnt either
 

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how did latham fuck up the tsunami 'issue'. Youre just beleiving what the media wants you to. What 'issue' is there anyway? iTs all a load of hype.
 

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ooooomgosh.... okay you seriously need some lessons in politics....
major disaster, and he says nothing about it. not even a written statement. nothing. he just shuts up and says nothing and then hes like 'there is no issue'...... THERE IS AN ISSUE, he didnt address the problem at hand with enough seriousness to even BEGIN to look like someone who could lead our nation!! it was an absolute disgrace, it was close to 'political suicide' for him and his cause
thats bad pr, if ever there was any

ps you're on a racist crusade with the 'poor black people'
 

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do people really care what latham has to say about it? no. Does it matter what he says? not really.
This is a small thing, and it's getting hyped all out of proportion... in the scheme of things Latham's reaction shouldn't matter. He is NOT them PM, he CAN'T do anything about it anyway. The end.
 

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