sam04u
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I agree with you Nolanistic. (don't misinterpret what i'm saying)
But, unlike 'christianity' Islam has never withheld any scientific findings, or done anything to prevent any new technological advances.
The difference in our ideals are not about religious dogma.
They're about what is 'moral' and what is 'immoral'.
And they're just as important as each other. Without morals society crumbles, people lives are ruined and things go horribly wrong. (which does not progress society.)
For something to be moral (in my opinion) must follow these 3 things.
1- Be best for the individual.
2- Be best for society.
3- Be fair to the individual (by not taking their rights away).
Drug Abuse, Murder, Sex Before Marriage, Homosexualism, Unplanned Pregnancies etc, etc. All fit in here.
That's the only difference in opinion between me and you.
The day that I find a more plausible theory or truth to Islam I'd follow it in a heartbeat.
(But, as i've shown in other posts Islam has no contradictions [as of yet] and explains things such as 'Big-Bang-Theory', 'Human Reproduction [with astounding accuraccy]' and implies that 'life exists in space'.
Also, 'the planet and the suns orbital pattern are never contradicted' they are actually explained with what would be astoundingly accurate for that time.
(although the davin argues that they're pagan beliefs....)
Back to what you're saying... I agree... and I would be 'agnostic' if Islam was proven to be wrong. (Because Atheism 'argues' that there is no 'Celestial Force' and would be stupid).
[Since even the Zero-Law theory which I've been contributing to requires an external entity... however minute to be plausible. Too bad I cant share it with you...]
-Good Luck
But, unlike 'christianity' Islam has never withheld any scientific findings, or done anything to prevent any new technological advances.
The difference in our ideals are not about religious dogma.
They're about what is 'moral' and what is 'immoral'.
And they're just as important as each other. Without morals society crumbles, people lives are ruined and things go horribly wrong. (which does not progress society.)
For something to be moral (in my opinion) must follow these 3 things.
1- Be best for the individual.
2- Be best for society.
3- Be fair to the individual (by not taking their rights away).
Drug Abuse, Murder, Sex Before Marriage, Homosexualism, Unplanned Pregnancies etc, etc. All fit in here.
That's the only difference in opinion between me and you.
The day that I find a more plausible theory or truth to Islam I'd follow it in a heartbeat.
(But, as i've shown in other posts Islam has no contradictions [as of yet] and explains things such as 'Big-Bang-Theory', 'Human Reproduction [with astounding accuraccy]' and implies that 'life exists in space'.
Also, 'the planet and the suns orbital pattern are never contradicted' they are actually explained with what would be astoundingly accurate for that time.
(although the davin argues that they're pagan beliefs....)
Back to what you're saying... I agree... and I would be 'agnostic' if Islam was proven to be wrong. (Because Atheism 'argues' that there is no 'Celestial Force' and would be stupid).
[Since even the Zero-Law theory which I've been contributing to requires an external entity... however minute to be plausible. Too bad I cant share it with you...]
-Good Luck