uws is shit (1 Viewer)

[Annegelic]

god yeah, it makes me mad aswell. usually they just hear bad stuff from other people and just go on from that, it's annoying cos they don't actually attend UWS themselves, so what would they know ?

and the socialising aspect.. i find during lectures everyone pretty much keeps to themselves, cos you're supposed to shut up and just listen.. but during tutes, breaks and travelling, then it's good to socialise.

 

[christ_ine]

I doubt anyone on the boards that attends UWS wanders into other uni threads to slag them off, yet we see it here.

 

[Cape]

Thats true christ tine ... the only other uni forum i've posted in was USYD, only cause they were convinced that everyone at UWS thinks that they are snobs.

I don't know how anyone has time during lectures to socialise. I go to lectures to learn and to take endless okages of notes as well, i'm always too busy writing to talk only cause tourism subjects don't have textbooks, so I have no reference for future readings, so i have to pay careful attention in lectures. Lectures do provide you with very good information that you will need later on.

 

[Annegelic]

lol what about the people from UWS who post in other uni boards?

yeah, but Shuter and all the rest deliberately post to diss it. i post in the general uni section, but i don't go around bagging out other unis.

it's funny how people complain about UWS being crowded.. i LIKE the fact that its got heaps of people. more to know i dont have any problems with my tutes or lecs.. it's all good w/ me.

 

[LazyBoy]

well im not bagging out the uni, i just came cause the thread caught my interest. But from a sociology perspective its very interesting to find out why UWS is the only uni which gets bagged out.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

the classes at uws are overcrowded, hopefully howard will drop some courses (ie, arts) which has like u kno... 500 first year students... we don't need that many political accademics, and don't give me that crap about 'general knowledge', u can learn this shit from the internet or from books...

 

[LazyBoy]

lol, that would have to be the most ignorant statement ive heard today. Yet odly enough not the worst thing ive heard you say. Btw your argument is invalid because many things you learn in uni, particular in arts you cannot learn through books or the internet, you can only through teaching and discussion. (mainly what the purpose of uni) Your premise is invalid, therefore its not a sound argument.

 

[Cape]

General courses, like arts and science tend to have huge numbers during first year because they have to get core subjects out of the way, once second year comes, or even second semester when electives are required, numbers change depending on what subjects the people are interested in. Thats why general degrees take so many people in.

eesh, my lecturer yesterday was complaining about teaching 50 something people by herself ... but then again, she weird

 

[Annegelic]

cos we're an easy target. gets fkn annoying. i guess the city unis have superiority issues.

 

[funky_a]

People say "UWS can't slag off other unis because other unis are better". Well, that simply isn't true. It's just that UWS don't have arrogant and vile asswipes that have nothing smart or mature to do other than diss unis they don't go to. So if you don't go to UWS and feel the need to bag it out, good on you, but please take that shit and jam it up your pretentious ass. I don't mean to sound like a bitch, but this whole uni slagging is getting boring. If you really are so opinionated about UWS, we invite you to come to any of our campus and announce your point of view there. Seriously, your opinions would be gain a better reaction there

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Yes but you have to question how IMPORTANT these courses are...
seriously, we just don't need that many people in those fields!

 

[Annegelic]

the classes at uws are overcrowded, hopefully howard will drop some courses (ie, arts) which has like u kno... 500 first year students... we don't need that many political accademics, and don't give me that crap about 'general knowledge', u can learn this shit from the internet or from books...

wtf ? BA is an important course... it's so broad, it gives students a variety of units to study in different careers. it's good cos with its UAI, it makes it easier to get in.. just because it's got stacks of people, doesn't mean it should be dropped.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

ok it shouldn't be dropped but the number of people should be minimalised.

 

[Cape]

We do. These degrees are important. Not everyone of those 400 - 500 people are going to major in the same area. With the flexability associated with UWS degrees, you can literally major in anything you want. There may be reasons why people do arts, I'm not that familar with the arts degree, but I have a friend studying B of arts (tourism) and it allows her to not only study in the area of tourism, but it also lets her study languages as well, which is good. Also, another friend doing arts, shes doing geography subjects are free electives in the tourism degree, so after she graduates she can go and get a diploma for teaching, she wants to be a geography teacher. People have reasons why they do the degree they want to.

 

[LazyBoy]

to a large extent NTB uni isnt a training institute. People who do law that only trains them to be a solicitor, they have to do further study to be a barrister.

But what good is a commerce degree if you know shitall about the world around you? I argue how can you expect to do business if you dont understand what came before you, what the world was like, what instituted social change? Courses like Arts are important, they train people in social sciences and in subjects that are important and revelent to work.

Without Arts there would be no teachers, without arts cultural sciences and subjects would be non existant. Its the academics of the world that study arts such as Archelogy, Psych, History that are all extremly important in maintaing our own cultural identity. Arts is also a very practical degree in that it provides people with further skill and education, with logical and reasoning ability above that of a high school graduate aswell as a handle on grammar and english that is above high school graduates. The more intelligent you are, the more employable you are because intelligence is an important

 

[Annegelic]

ok it shouldn't be dropped but the number of people should be minimalised.

it's not even crowded ?? i've got friends doing arts, and i've sat in a couple arts lecs w/ friends cos i was bored and had nothing else to do.. there were heaps of spare seats. you do know people who do arts, get spread out throughout UWS, depending on their majors.. it aint even that much people..

 

[LazyBoy]

im not sure how UWS structures there degree but i can comment on the USYD way which im sure is how its done at UWS too. Subjects such as Sociology at USYD is backed with over 500 people taking the course i beleive. But not all those people are arts students, some are science etc who have an interest in the subject. I think limiting the places in Arts would be the same as cultural homocide for reasons stated above.

 

[Cape]

LazyBoy, generally if you do any degree at UWS, and you can choose free electives, you can choose subjects from any field in the uni. For example, even though I am doing a tourism degree, this year I am doing subjects associated with geology, geography and environmental policy making.

 

[LazyBoy]

yeah same at USYd. most arts degrees are really flexible

 

[Cape]

The thing is, its not just arts degrees. I'm not even doing an arts degree and I have to choose 10 electives throughout my whole degree, out of 24 subjects.