VSU Protest Today (3 Viewers)

[Korn]

I seriously wonder how someone like walrusbear is going to survive in the real world.

they won't they are usually doing a fine arts or something equally as useless and wont get a job and be on the dole

 

[walrusbear]

Let me take a wild stab in the dark, u fit into one of those "Special interest groups" don't u

oh yeah one of 'those' people
hahahahaha
fancy having a non-status quo view

how novel?

hey everyone look at me?! i'm trying to promote university welfare and culture!
bahahahaha

 

[Not-That-Bright]

uhh what, to form an 'anime society' ?

 

[walrusbear]

they won't they are usually doing a fine arts or something equally as useless and wont get a job and be on the dole

i know aren't the arts totally useless?
fancy someone learning something that wasn't geared towards making money...
holy shit! hahaha what a waste of time.

 

[Korn]

i know aren't the arts totally useless?
fancy someone learning something that wasn't geared towards making money...
holy shit! hahaha what a waste of time.

It is if u wanna spend quite a bit of ur money and public money on it, it doesnt require a uni degree, cause either u got talent or u dont, u aint gonna learn it

 

[walrusbear]

uhh what, to form an 'anime society' ?

yeah an 'anime society' those geeks who have different interests than me.
hahaah must be worthless

 

[walrusbear]

It is if u wanna spend quite a bit of ur money and public money on it, it doesnt require a uni degree, cause either u got talent or u dont, u aint gonna learn it

i'm assuming you've confused arts with performing arts here

 

[Korn]

i'm assuming you've confused arts with performing arts here

What type of arts degree are u doing?

 

[Not-That-Bright]

well i don't see why i should fund an anime society... in any way.
I'm just trying to lash out because a few people in this thread have claimed that vsu is for anti-social people, whereas there's just as good an argument that usu is supported by small lonely groups of geeks who can't get out and make friends in the real world.

 

[walrusbear]

i'm doing lib studies
so essentially arts and science, not fine arts

 

[withoutaface]

*le sighe

Can we stop the degree bashing now?

And on a tangent, an anime society really wouldn't cost that much to run, since a lot of it's unlicensed and hence legally available for free off the internet, so all you really need is a free, dark room and a projector...

 

[walrusbear]

well i don't see why i should fund an anime society... in any way.
I'm just trying to lash out because a few people in this thread have claimed that vsu is for anti-social people, whereas there's just as good an argument that usu is supported by small lonely groups of geeks who can't get out and make friends in the real world.

not so much accusing the stance as being anti-social
but demonstrating a contempt for university culture (and still expecting to get a degree).

 

[Korn]

*le sighe

Can we stop the degree bashing now?

And on a tangent, an anime society really wouldn't cost that much to run, since a lot of it's unlicensed and hence legally available for free off the internet, so all you really need is a free, dark room and a projector...

Why not just have a laptop with that shit on it?

 

[Not-That-Bright]

but, shouldn't university culture be in control of those who are at the university?!
(50% of students or so want vsu).

 

[Korn]

not so much accusing the stance as being anti-social
but demonstrating a contempt for university culture (and still expecting to get a degree).

If there were proper societies like in the States then I would support the USU, but alas there isnt.
Additionally USU can be seen to be dictatory and communist

 

[Slidey]

can all you pro-vsu posters just admit that you hate culture and are selfish fucks?

If you think that sufficiently summarises the VSU position, you're not very informed.

 

[katie_tully]

First question.
Why do some of you have the audacity to say that people should be paying for services they won't necessarily use, purely to keep them running for the greater benefit of other people?
You use it, you pay for it. If so many people feel strongly about the services the union provides, then THEY can pay for it.
My mother who is doing her masters through USYD has to pay the fee, and why should she? She doesn't use any of the services provided, infact she only has to go to USYD twice a year for face to face lectures... And yet, people here still believe other people should pay for something PURELY BECAUSE IT BENEFITS OTHER PEOPLE.

I don't mind if people support VSU for the right reasons. Just not people who seem to love the fact that they get to keep their 500 (insert laughter at people who care ) bucks at the disadvantage of people who really need those services.

If you support Student Unions, pay for the bloody services. If you don't support them, or don't use them, why should you be paying $500-$600 a year to keep other people in the manner to which they would like to become accustomed?

They are destroying the 'left wing' student base in universities that were their enemies during their uni days.

OMG OH NOES, the righties plan for world domination starts with destroying the lefties at university. I've figured this out! It's one big conspiracy theory to ruin left wing students and their lives, all because at uni they used to be arch enemies. I'm glad that's settled.

Paying unions fees is not charity. Its adding to the university community.

Its making the university perhaps 'a better place'...this is not exactly 'bare' charity.

A better place for whom? The people who use the services? WELL GOOD, the people who USE the services can PAY for the services.

Little 1st yr'ers that go to crappy uni's shouldnt have a view on VSU.

Omg, kekekekekek I got a UAI of 99.95 and I go to USYD, omgorz, BOW DOWN!

Academic Dress Hire
The ACCESS Centre
Amenities
Arcade Games
Art Gallery & Sculpture Terrace
Art, Photo and Literature Prizes
Arts Festival
Audio Visual Facilities
Australian Discussion Groups for International Students
Badge Making
Band Comp
Beachball
Beige Pages (clubs and societies list)
Campus Stores
Catering Discounts
Catering Outlets
Childcare
Clubs & Societies
Condiments
Coffee Carts
Coffee Card
Committees & other Advisory Structures
Competitions
Concerts
CONTACT Information Desks and Referral Services
Convenor Positions
The Cubby
Cultural Diversity Journal
Creative Grants
Debates
Dedicated Spaces for students
Disability Services
Discount Tickets
DJ Comp
Employment
Environmental Expressions Competitions
Environment Handbook
Equipment Hire Scheme
Faxing
Film Program
Food
Free Lunchtime Gigs
Free Film Program
Free Publications
Giveaways
Graduands’ Handbook
Graduation Services & Academic Dress
Holme Building
Information Day Entertainment and Catering
International Students Room
International Recipe Competition
Justices of the Peace
Leadership and Excellence Awards
Letterbox Hire
Life Membership
Locker Hire
Lounges
Manning Bar
Manning Building
Member Card
Member Discounts
Microwaves
Movie Money
Noticeboards
Off-Campus Cultural Events
O-Week
Photocopying
Pool Tables
Prizes
Queer Space/Resource Room
Random acts of Kindness
Reading areas
Recreational Space
Retail Services
Revues
Room Hire
School Tutoring Program
Sir Hermann Black Gallery & Sculpture Terrace
Skills and Leisure Courses
Snowball
Sound Space
Student Diary
Student DJ Sessions
Student Editor Positions
Student Point Of Contact (SPOC) Program
Support Services
Sydney Uni Live Entertainment and Catering
Table Tennis
Tangent
Tax Help
Theatresports®
The Bull
The Venue Collection
Toilets
Trivia Competition
T-shirt Printing
UBS - Media School
Union Recorder
Volunteering Programs
Volunteer of the Year Awards
Websites www.usydunion.com and www.manningbar.com
Wentworth Bar
Wentworth Building
Women’s Resource Room/Library
Women’s Words Competition
Year 10 Mentoring Programme

Yeah. They all look like worthwhile things for other people to pay for. Well done. "OMG but you're contributing to services for other people", "omg get a life".
Sure there are some worthwhile things in that list, but they're far out numbered by the worthless ones.

 

[withoutaface]

Why not just have a laptop with that shit on it?

Because that removes the social/easeofuse element, where anyone in the society can go at lunchtime on whatever day they hold these things, pay $1-2 and get some entertainment while they eat.
*shrugs

 

[walrusbear]

but, shouldn't university culture be in control of those who are at the university?!
(50% of students or so want vsu).

vsu isn't a viable entity
it's not anything but a complete dismantling of unions

even if 50% of people want the union, only a miniscule amount will actually pay for it (not because they don't REALLY want it, but because 50% of students paying can't support a union. how does a union exist with only partial coverage?)

 

[Not-That-Bright]

umm... cuz the union ONLY provides services to that 50%, essentially the power of the union at usyd AFTER VSU, could have the same comparative power as the union at une CURRENTLY (if member numbers drop to about the same as the student numbers of une currently)...