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Thankfully, I was given the opportunity to take on advanced and extension math - regardless of my poor marks in year 8.
Same here - but only because my school took a large number for 5.3.

Again, you are generalising - some students may not have the skills prior to entering senior years.
This - it's more of an issue in maths, where poor teaching in the younger years results in students with either lacking knowledge or a poor grasp of concepts.
 

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Our head teacher cut so many people from mathematics and mathematics extension 1 for their lack of performance

IMO people can improve over time

Take my brother for example:

In the beginning of year 11 he was coming in the bottom 20 for extension and bottom 40 for maths

At the end of year 12:

Mathematics Rank: 8th HSC Mark: 97

Mathematics Extension 1 Rank: 11th HSC Mark: 94 (or 47 / 50)

It just goes to show that people can improve over time, just as long as they're willing to do so :D
 

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And I'm saying they should. "what everyone should be comfortable-ish" not what everyone is comfortable-ish. Junior school = should reinforce foundation of whatever that is taught in senior school. For people I've dicussed with and personal experience, junior school = waste of time.
It's kinda true both ways - yes, you should have fun given that it's junior years, but at the same time, it's sensible to have the roots already set in stone; especially with maths and english, otherwise the tree is gonna become unstable.
 

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I didnt know what an essay was until Year 11 (I actually had to ask my teacher).
Precisely c: The point I was trying to get to, admittedly in a roundabout way, is that junior school = useless. Allstudents should know the basics of whichever subject(s) by senior years. Otherwise, essentially, everything you learn by the end of year 12, was basically taught to you in just under 2 years.
 

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Our head teacher cut so many people from mathematics and mathematics extension 1 for their lack of performance

IMO people can improve over time

Take my brother for example:

In the beginning of year 11 he was coming in the bottom 20 for extension and bottom 40 for maths

At the end of year 12:

Mathematics Rank: 8th HSC Mark: 97

Mathematics Extension 1 Rank: 11th HSC Mark: 94 (or 47 / 50)

It just goes to show that people can improve over time, just as long as they're willing to do so :D
I don't think I'll have the opportunity to improve if my teacher is (prolly) thinking of kicking me out soon. SADDNESS D: Just goes to show you should never underestimate maths.
 

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Precisely c: The point I was trying to get to, admittedly in a roundabout way, is that junior school = useless. Allstudents should know the basics of whichever subject(s) by senior years. Otherwise, essentially, everything you learn by the end of year 12, was basically taught to you in just under 2 years.
Have you ever considered that junior years do not correlate to how you go in year 11 & 12?
 

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Precisely c: The point I was trying to get to, admittedly in a roundabout way, is that junior school = useless. Allstudents should know the basics of whichever subject(s) by senior years. Otherwise, essentially, everything you learn by the end of year 12, was basically taught to you in just under 2 years.
this. years 7-9 party :D, year 10 = learn algebra and how to write an essay. year 11 = shit.
 

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It's kinda true both ways - yes, you should have fun given that it's junior years, but at the same time, it's sensible to have the roots already set in stone; especially with maths and english, otherwise the tree is gonna become unstable.
Exactly. Hence my generalising isn't generalising b/c I'm not saying all students are comfortable with essay, I'm saying they should be. And all students should be b/c of
1. sheer amount of eng classes + assessments + practise time based on essays
2. English is compulsory. Therefore there is no counter-argument like what if student x doesn't like eng or watevs. That/ those student(s) will be taking english regardless of whether they like it or not, and therefore a solid foundation of Eng should be necessary.
 

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Have you ever considered that junior years do not correlate to how you go in year 11 & 12?
I'm assuming that junior years provide foundation for year 11 and year 12. High school basically sets you up for HSC, so it's a pretty logical assumption. Why? Are junior years not meant to set the founding knowledge for what year 11 and 12 are based upon?
 

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I'm assuming that junior years provide foundation for year 11 and year 12. High school basically sets you up for HSC, so it's a pretty logical assumption. Why? Are junior years not meant to set the founding knowledge for what year 11 and 12 are based upon?
So are you saying that for student A who didn't do well in junior years will do crap in the HSC and vice versa for student B?
 

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omg just going to rant here, but i really hate it when people think i'm stupid because i didn't take any sciences :mad3:
bitch plz i just chose the things i was actually interested in, and it's on these days that i wonder if it would've been a better decision to take the asian 5 instead...
 

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omg just going to rant here, but i really hate it when people think i'm stupid because i didn't take any sciences :mad3:
bitch plz i just chose the things i was actually interested in, and it's on these days that i wonder if it would've been a better decision to take the asian 5 instead...
fakdah8rz
 

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I'm assuming that junior years provide foundation for year 11 and year 12. High school basically sets you up for HSC, so it's a pretty logical assumption. Why? Are junior years not meant to set the founding knowledge for what year 11 and 12 are based upon?
they're meant to be but they make year 7-10 a bludge, no wonder when you hit ur hsc years everything seems overwhelming for most people.
 

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this. years 7-9 party :D, year 10 = learn algebra and how to write an essay. year 11 = shit.
haha lol xD in year 10, my year everyone (unless you had a good reason) had to do peer support and some of the advice my peers parted to the year 7s were: don't try in year 7-9, it doesn't count for anything :O

All the year 7s were looking like we told them xmas was tomorrow.
 

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they're meant to be but they make year 7-10 a bludge, no wonder when you hit ur hsc years everything seems overwhelming for most people.
it takes time to adjust

like for me, I didn't do shit in year 7-10 - but now I'm coping alright.
 

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omg just going to rant here, but i really hate it when people think i'm stupid because i didn't take any sciences :mad3:
bitch plz i just chose the things i was actually interested in, and it's on these days that i wonder if it would've been a better decision to take the asian 5 instead...
ok, i think ur smart. imo, just cos u don't do a science doesn't mean ur dumb. period. I know people who got 99+ WITHOUT maths and a science. so please don't underestimate urself.
 
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