Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread (2 Viewers)

Would you take a coronavirus vaccine if it was available to you, and if so which would you prefer?

  • No

    Votes: 18 11.6%
  • Any vaccine

    Votes: 19 12.3%
  • Pfizer

    Votes: 47 30.3%
  • Astra Zeneca

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Already vaccinated with AZ

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Already vaccinated with Pfizer

    Votes: 62 40.0%
  • Moderna

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Sputnik

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Janssen

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Novavax

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    155

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I think care needs to be taken to distinguish between people who don’t have symptoms at an observed point in time (but then develop them later on) and people who never show symptoms at all. Asymptomatic transmission captures both the above types but the vast majority of them fall into that “presymptomatic” category which is contact traceable.
Yes you do raise a good point and I went back to check some of the studies and news.com.au did inflate some of the figures. It does remain that some portion of the fully asymptomatic cases can transmit the virus, in some cases to many people mostly in the case of doctors, and very sadly, also in aged care homes.

The main point I’m getting at here is that it is very difficult to suppress the virus to a constant low level while reopening the economy, in the absence of eradication of course, as any substantial relief measures would cause a resurgence, and that neither is the status quo able to eliminate the virus, due to rule flouters and (even comparatively low) numbers of asymptomatic transmission which can also occur in places such as supermarkets.
 

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I’m actually so confused another this whole school opening thing. do We go Back to school on week three of term two? If this goes on how will we take our hsc trials or prelims? And what about our assessment? i mean who can guarantee that no one will cheat or sth? And roster system what even is that? but srsly though what will happen to year 11 and twelve.
 
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This could go on for the whole of term 2 there is no information about it. For trials I am assuming we still go to school and sit the exams because supervision is needed otherwise people can cheat. Also, we could get an estimate based on our in class exams and assignments. Assessments could be handed electronically through email or they can be delivered to your house by post. I think rostering system is certain days that teachers are assigned to come into the school to supervise students who are unable to stay at home. Something will happen to year 11 and 12 idek. :confused2: :confused:
 

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This could go on for the whole of term 2 there is no information about it. For trials I am assuming we still go to school and sit the exams because supervision is needed otherwise people can cheat. Also, we could get an estimate based on our in class exams and assignments. Assessments could be handed electronically through email or they can be delivered to your house by post. I think rostering system is certain days that teachers are assigned to come into the school to supervise students who are unable to stay at home. Something will happen to year 11 and 12 idek. :confused2: :confused:
but how can they be sure that no one will cheat?
 

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We have no luck😂

1) Can't actually do trials at school ( being surrounded by heaps of students who might have the coronavirus)
2) Can't do exam at home (accused of cheating)
 

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I’m actually so confused another this whole school opening thing. do We go Back to school on week three of term two? If this goes on how will we take our hsc trials or prelims? And what about our assessment? i mean who can guarantee that no one will cheat or sth? And roster system what even is that? but srsly though what will happen to year 11 and twelve.
I suspect the rostering system would look like what some workplaces are adopting. For example, half the class is rostered to turn up for face-to-face learning for one week and then in the second week they are rostered to stay home (and swap with the other half of the class).
 

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Alright, they’re on a day a week starting week 3 which at some points turns into two days a week. This will create maximum chaos for teachers and they will have to teach in all three modes.

As for health side, I’d agree that this probably won’t cause cases to increase much until a more widespread easing of restriction occurs in 1 months time. Then it’s back to lockdown again weeks or months after that...

I do note now that NZ is going out of lockdowns. This makes absolutely no sense, given they are still registering a number of cases and they won’t be able to eradicate this with their stage 4 restrictions. Arden in fact recently changed her stance that eradication isn’t actually equivalent to getting rid of all cases.
 

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New evidence also suggests immunity is temporary for the Coronavirus, we may see waves each winter until vaccines are here.
 

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The schools might place greater emphasis on the year 12s since no one wants anyone to repeat another year. The other cohorts will be on the 'backburner' for now. The universities are already revising their entry requirements for some of their courses in light of recent events. I don't think anyone should worry about 'cheating' because firstly its unethical, secondly its takes a lot of hard work to 'cheat' and finally the idea of assessments is to help you assess your abilities to take up future challenges. When things start to calm down a little, you'll find that the economy will be charging 'full steam ahead'. It is going to be unreal. 🚂
 

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'Premier Gladys Berejiklian confirmed students would return to school one day a week from May 11 and that teachers would be given priority access to coronavirus testing. Students learning remotely from home would begin returning to classrooms from May 11, Ms Berejiklian said, the third week of term two, with a view to a full-time return to classrooms from term three.' Sydney Morning Herald.
 

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The schools might place greater emphasis on the year 12s since no one wants anyone to repeat another year. The other cohorts will be on the 'backburner' for now. The universities are already revising their entry requirements for some of their courses in light of recent events. I don't think anyone should worry about 'cheating' because firstly its unethical, secondly its takes a lot of hard work to 'cheat' and finally the idea of assessments is to help you assess your abilities to take up future challenges. When things start to calm down a little, you'll find that the economy will be charging 'full steam ahead'. It is going to be unreal. 🚂
Regardless of what happens, multiple figures have said there will be no mass repeating. They will have to make do with whatever gets done.

Cheating is also unavoidable if exams are meant to be taken at home (in reference to one of your previous comments, it will be feasible to hold in school exams at some point and there is no reason not to, unless the situations spirals again), in “trust” of their integrity. Not only is cheating easy with no proctoring (and compulsory use of e-proctor software extremely controversial and inaccessible), student trust in the integrity of the exam is also lacking, as they cannot confirm other students are no cheating.

The economy is not going to be charging anytime soon, at least until the virus is well and truly gone. That’s probably a year or more away. Too many things they can’t open up yet. But yes, once it is really gone, we will see the economy come back to life.
 

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