Class of 2025 (2025 HSC CHAT) (11 Viewers)

[coolcat6778]

Where do you get these graphs from?

HSC Course and Performance Band Descriptors - Board of Studies Teaching and Educational Standards NSW

www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au

 

[killer queen]

completely false. English standard, advanced and studies scale the exact same. UAC even says so, and the graph looks the same.

English tanks our atar because there are retards in all levels of English (who score high in English but low in a subject like math), which contributes to it having low scaling.

ion know the graph of advanced seems more negatively skewed meaning that marks are higher, when compared to standard which is normally distributed id say

from my understanding, it's a bit of a case of everyone who can pick advanced picks advanced for the sake of ATAR, causing a bigger skew, causing more people to pick advanced, etc - it's a bit of a feedback loop
the people who pick standard thinking its easier also tend to do the lesser scaling subjects, causing it to be considered 'easier' because of relative performance - they are supposed to scale the exact same, I checked the UAC document and whilst HSC mark to aggregate looks similar, this doesn't account for the raw to HSC mark transition. using rawmarksdatabase in tandem with the UAC scaling document to infer a raw -> scaled (used for aggregate calculation) relationship, then yes, standard has a significantly lower contribution. this just highlights that it's harder to band 6 standard, since people measure their performance based on marks, and therefore would be very confused as to why their HSC mark is lower than expected. (I'm by no means an expert on this, but I like to think I'm somewhat intelligent.)
there really isn't that big of a skill difference, as evidenced in common module, which just doesn't make sense from a syllabus perspective. I think it's frankly stupid to be marking advanced, which is 'supposed' to require so much more skill, at the exact same level as standard. it defeats the purpose of advanced english and makes scoring a band 6 in paper 1 (and therefore the whole subject) unnecessarily difficult for standard students. also, for some reason my school does different common mod texts for standard and adv? I don't understand this personally...but it is true that there appear to be texts 'geared' towards standard and texts for advanced (e.g. your shakespeare, your 1984 - like no school worth their salt would make their standard cohort do shakespeare when a lot of them picked standard to get away from it)
the only conceivable advantage of dropping to standard is rankings (ik people in my school who did that) but it's so not worth the abysmal band 6 rate
the english syllabus in general could be so much better but that's a rant for another day...

edit: I was wrong about the UAC document, they do calculate the scaled mark using raw to scaled, and they explicitly state they scale standard and advanced and studies the exact same using the common sections

 

[anominus]

thats so real cuz same i can only do math past papers but never for english or anything idk why

Girl im just focussed on memorising my chatgpt essays,

and im gonna anki like 20 literary techniques and some short response structure and wing that

 

[gossipgirllll]

Girl im just focussed on memorising my chatgpt essays,

and im gonna anki like 20 literary techniques and some short response structure and wing that

LMAOOOO finally a real one

 

[Lumimi]

Do you guys think they can ask us to specifically write an essay on the role of women in mod a?

possibly, but i highly doubt they would
i remember a few years back they made a very specific question on the power of love for one module and got huge backlash for it lol

 

[vanaaa25]

possibly, but i highly doubt they would
i remember a few years back they made a very specific question on the power of love for one module and got huge backlash for it lol

oh hell nah im kinda worried my essay doesnt fit at al to a question like that

 

[gossipgirllll]

oh hell nah im kinda worried my essay doesnt fit at al to a question like that

what text do u do?

 

[Lumimi]

oh hell nah im kinda worried my essay doesnt fit at al to a question like that

dw i have a feeling the questions will be pretty broad, they don't rly do specific questions that much

 

[lolcti]

Do you guys think they can ask us to specifically write an essay on the role of women in mod a?

It rlly depends on the story you’re doing and tbh it’s unlikely if u get an extract or stimulus. like for me I'm doing mrs Dalloway and the hours and all the previous extracts have been about women so yeah its possible.

 

[Lumimi]

i forgot they have diff questions for diff texts so ig it depends on what ur doing

 

[vanaaa25]

Once they separated the questions for each text where they gave us extracts from it but thats the only time it was specific. I'm really worried now im ngl because they can always surprise us yk. But theres also the fact that they could only really ask for the rubric rather than a set theme. Im not sure, maybe im overthinking

 

[vanaaa25]

what text do u do?

I do King Richard the 3 and looking for richard

 

[vanaaa25]

It rlly depends on the story you’re doing and tbh it’s unlikely if u get an extract or stimulus. like for me I'm doing mrs Dalloway and the hours and all the previous extracts have been about women so yeah its possible.

Yeah but our texts has a major theme of power and how thats obtained, the role of women isnt huge but its still something thats mentioned

 

[Study to success]

I don't understand this personally...but it is true that there appear to be texts 'geared' towards standard and texts for advanced (e.g. your shakespeare, your 1984 - like no school worth their salt would make their standard cohort do shakespeare when a lot of them picked standard to get away from it)
.

I mean people in std at my school are doing 1984 as well

 

[its_ace21]

I mean people in std at my school are doing 1984 as well

isnt that coz thats a common mod texts and adv/std students at a school do the same com mod text?

 

[Study to success]

isnt that coz thats a common mod texts and adv/std students at a school do the same com mod text?

Yeah ik but killer queen was talking about how some texts are geared towards adv like 1984 but some schools like mine makes the std cohort do it too

 

[anominus]

I mean people in std at my school are doing 1984 as well

Everytime i see an individual with their hsc in 2026, i start to cry cos i fucking hate this shit.


please lock in now, so you dont suffer later

 

[gossipgirllll]

at my skl the std classes did vertigo and advanced classes split like some classes did 1984 and some did crucible soo i didnt know that Advanced could have done vertigo lollllss although id hate to do it tbh #1984ontopp

 

[gossipgirllll]

Everytime i see an individual with their hsc in 2026, i start to cry cos i fucking hate this shit.


please lock in now, so you dont suffer later

NAH REAL I FEEL SO BAD FOR THEM LIKE

 

[lolcti]

I did vertigo in yr8 and I didnt get it at all bruh such a stupid movie or maybe yall talking about another vertigo but yeah it was stupid