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"Board of Studies lashed over HSC" and other stories (1 Viewer)

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so now that this has happened, how do we actually attain these raw marks, is there a certain application or will just an email do? Have they set something up where we need to pay to access our marks?
 

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ey lazarus cud u post up hugh parsonages raw and aligned marks/
 

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those parsonage things are brilliant.

So pple doin their hsc in 2009, how exactly can we get these?
 

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I'll oblige.
The parsonages are great. Please do tell us how we can access them for our marks in 2009 onwards.

P.S. I never knew markers could give half marks in the raw marks... my teachers say that the markers never do - now I know and I will show them.
 

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those parsonage things are brilliant.

So pple doin their hsc in 2009, how exactly can we get these?
these are crazy they even tell what you got for each question!! I have to have my ones

someone tell me how ..
 

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P.S. I never knew markers could give half marks in the raw marks... my teachers say that the markers never do - now I know and I will show them.
In the sciences they don't.

They mainly appear in long answer questions, so could be the result of double marking and averaging.

Not sure why in the low mark English questions
 

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has anybody got any more of these parsonages?

e.g. legal, pe, 2u maths, bio...

Much appreciation.
 

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The parsonages are great. Please do tell us how we can access them for our marks in 2009 onwards.

P.S. I never knew markers could give half marks in the raw marks... my teachers say that the markers never do - now I know and I will show them.

In Modern History we most certainly do NOT give half marks.

How half or even tenths of marks come about is due to the double marking of essays.

Marker 1 gives and essay 17/25 while Marker 2 gives it 20/25 meaning a total of 37/50 which is divided by 2 to get 18.5/25 for that essay.

With the judging there are 6 judges and say they judge the cut-off as 16, 17, 18, 16, 15 and 18 which equals 100 divided by 6 = 16.666666. When that sort of mark is added for say four questions (as in Modern History) is it possible to get a cut-off such as 84.78 and thus a mark of 84.5 would get Band 5 whereas 85 would go to 90 and get Band 6.

As a marker though no half marks at all, even as a judge we only deal in full marks.
 

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What exactly were those sheets called - I realised they weren't called 'parsonages' when I saw "Hugh Parsonage". lol.
 

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Yea i'm sure there are more available.
The article says that he led a group of people to apply?
 

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My understanding is that they haven't received their marks yet - but (depending on your interpretation of recommendation 20.7) they should be released in due course.

I don't think the raw mark sheets have an official name. The Board described them in this way to Hugh:

The data relating to each of your HSC courses shows all values used by the Board of Studies in the processing of your results, from initial input data (ie school assessment marks and raw marks for each examination question) to your final reported results.

It is presented in an approximately chronological order of processing, rather than in the order specified in your FOI request. Also, for clarity, some data presented is additional to that requested by you. This data is where there are additional steps in the processing of the data, such as optional question scaling (where students may choose from a range of options in an examination) and common paper equating in English (Advanced), or for completeness.
 

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Yea i'm sure there are more available.
The article says that he led a group of people to apply?
Yep, I'm one of the people who joined Hugh. I haven'ty received my scores, but I hope they come soon. All I cared about was my marks for my PIP. Spending 9 months on an essay and not knowing how well you did just sucks.

A huge thank you to Hugh Parsonage. I hope this helps more people access their raw marks.
 

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Re: "Board of Studies lashed over HSC", "HSC marks out of the dark"

True, but if you look at previous results for 2003:


<table width="66%" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr><td>2003 Board Developed Courses </td><td colspan="2" width="20%" align="middle">Total Weighted
Mark
</td><td colspan="2" width="20%" align="middle">Aligned Exam
Mark


</td></tr><tr><td>Chemistry </td><td align="right">61/100 </td><td width="6%">
</td><td align="right">79/100 </td><td width="6%">

</td></tr><tr><td>English (Advanced) </td><td align="right">73/100 </td><td>
</td><td align="right">82/100 </td><td>

</td></tr><tr><td>Mathematics </td><td align="right">73/120 </td><td>
</td><td align="right">82/100 </td><td>

</td></tr><tr><td>Mathematics Extension 1 </td><td align="right">11/84 </td><td>
</td><td align="right">17/50 </td><td>

</td></tr><tr><td>Physics </td><td align="right">56/100 </td><td>
</td><td align="right">78/100 </td><td>

</td></tr><tr><td>Software Design and Development </td><td align="right">59/100 </td><td>
</td><td align="right">79/100</td></tr></tbody></table>

Notice the huge jump in most of those subjects? (especially Physics). That's definitely not expected by the ordinary student.
Thats fucking awesome. So if i get like 90% raw mark in physics and chem im basically getting 99%.. im pretty happy who gives a shit about the raw marks..
 

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Yep, I'm one of the people who joined Hugh. I haven'ty received my scores, but I hope they come soon. All I cared about was my marks for my PIP. Spending 9 months on an essay and not knowing how well you did just sucks.

A huge thank you to Hugh Parsonage. I hope this helps more people access their raw marks.
Oh nice, would you mind posting them up when you get them?
I'm really interested in seeing some more of those, the only subject that is relevant to me is SDD :(

How many others applied with Hugh?
 

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