Class of 2025 (2025 HSC CHAT) (37 Viewers)

[killer queen]

Wait, If they give an extract for english, how exactly do u use it? do you just like use quotes from it and stuff?

To be safe, yes - however, they often word the question as "with close reference", so I don't know how true this is, but my teachers said that technically you can treat it as a stimulus and make it part of your thesis instead. How true is this? No idea!

Honestly though, I'd just analyse it on the spot, haha...just more short answer practice!

edit: I just checked the marking criteria for the 2021 Mod B question, and it says:

• Explains skilfully the ways the excerpt/screenshots reflect the concerns and aesthetic qualities of the text

So I guess you do have to analyse it to some extent. Honestly though, excerpt questions are really confusing, because in that case why can't your whole essay be on that extract? So actually it probably would be most effective integrated into one's thesis, but also analysed in the relevant section.

 

[lolcti]

600? like ur essay is only 600 words?

No actually it is 592 words i just checked

 

[erin_4school]

To be safe, yes - however, they often word the question as "with close reference", so I don't know how true this is, but my teachers said that technically you can treat it as a stimulus and make it part of your thesis instead. How true is this? No idea!

Honestly though, I'd just analyse it on the spot, haha...just more short answer practice!

edit: I just checked the marking criteria for the 2021 Mod B question, and it says:

• Explains skilfully the ways the excerpt/screenshots reflect the concerns and aesthetic qualities of the text

So I guess you do have to analyse it to some extent. Honestly though, excerpt questions are really confusing, because in that case why can't your whole essay be on that extract? So actually it probably would be most effective integrated into one's thesis, but also analysed in the relevant section.

yeah i'd agree w/ this, add the ideas explored in the extract (e.g. honour or legitimacy) into your thesis and then incorperate the evidence in the extract at least one in one of your paragraphs, or more if it fits (but once should be enough) --> though like u would any question keep linking back to the idea you incorperated into your thesis throughout.

just kind of imagine the stimulus as the part of the question that is like "How is [part of the syllabus (which can be seen in the extract)] shown/explored/[something else idk] in your study of [your text]."

if that makes sense...

 

[erin_4school]

*at least once

 

[killer queen]

*at least once

yo music 2!! what instrument do you play (or do, in the off chance you're voice)?

 

[erin_4school]

yo music 2!! what instrument do you play (or do, in the off chance you're voice)?

haha whoops that was meant to say maths standard lol, but i did do Music 2 (voice aswell!) --> i dropped it like last term cause I was doing 14 units rip (should've dropped legal)

 

[lolcti]

sorry just wondering wym by its only 600 words?

My intro is 50 words and my central paras are 250 each.. Obvs it ranges but in the exam my intro will be around 100, and body’s will be around 300-350 each when I adapt to the question + conclusion is around 50, so my essay will usually be around 800.. For mod B since we can literally be asked a specific question my school makes us do 2 body paras and recommends us to memorise 3 quotes per poem because it’s possible to get an extract and we shouldn’t leave it up to luck and tbh if I had extra time I would just make another para with the quotes I memorised for the other poems but usually I just take that time to think how to adapt effectively. It works tho I think the lowest I’ve gotten on mod B is 19/20

 

[killer queen]

haha whoops that was meant to say maths standard lol, but i did do Music 2 (voice aswell!) --> i dropped it like last term cause I was doing 14 units rip (should've dropped legal)

NOOOOOOO NO MUSIC 2 NOOOOOO my bad tho lol I should've realised there was something else it could stand for, love the coincidence that you had done it at one point

and nooooo music 2 is the bane of my existenceeee well the performance and composition are great fun but the actual aural exam makes me want to bash my head against a wall

voice is so sick tho!! vocalists in music 2 are so rare

 

[erin_4school]

My intro is 50 words and my central paras are 250 each.. Obvs it ranges but in the exam my intro will be around 100, and body’s will be around 300-350 each when I adapt to the question + conclusion is around 50, so my essay will usually be around 800.. For mod B since we can literally be asked a specific question my school makes us do 2 body paras and recommends us to memorise 3 quotes per poem because it’s possible to get an extract and we shouldn’t leave it up to luck and tbh if I had extra time I would just make another para with the quotes I memorised for the other poems but usually I just take that time to think how to adapt effectively. It works tho I think the lowest I’ve gotten on mod B is 19/20

wow! thats actually so smart though, cause I always struggle with adapting

 

[Study to success]

I wish I picked music. But at the same time I had a love hate relationship with it. But lowkey it would have been fun. But also my school only offers music 1 and that would mean at least 2 major works rip

 

[erin_4school]

NOOOOOOO NO MUSIC 2 NOOOOOO my bad tho lol I should've realised there was something else it could stand for, love the coincidence that you had done it at one point

and nooooo music 2 is the bane of my existenceeee well the performance and composition are great fun but the actual aural exam makes me want to bash my head against a wall

voice is so sick tho!! vocalists in music 2 are so rare

i was the only one in my class lol, my teacher was rlly sad when I dropped cause she was stuck with all the like piano, flute and chello kids (+randomly a recorder?)

actually aural was pretty chill for me cause I sing internationally so I have kinda been forced to do that stuff since I was like 7 lmao, but i miss doing the compositions...

 

[erin_4school]

NOOOOOOO NO MUSIC 2 NOOOOOO my bad tho lol I should've realised there was something else it could stand for, love the coincidence that you had done it at one point

and nooooo music 2 is the bane of my existenceeee well the performance and composition are great fun but the actual aural exam makes me want to bash my head against a wall

voice is so sick tho!! vocalists in music 2 are so rare

d u do vocal aswell!

 

[Study to success]

i was the only one in my class lol, my teacher was rlly sad when I dropped cause she was stuck with all the like piano, flute and chello kids (+randomly a recorder?)

actually aural was pretty chill for me cause I sing internationally so I have kinda been forced to do that stuff since I was like 7 lmao, but i miss doing the compositions...

My music teacher in year 9 was so sad that I didn’t continue it in year 10 and then she was like ur gonna come back in year 11 right? And I was gonna but then I never did lol. I don’t talk to her anymore cause I don’t do band anymore

 

[killer queen]

d u do vocal aswell!

LOL no I'm basic, I'm a violinist! I go to a school where music 2 classes aren't very common tho, we get a couple of kids every few years

classical voice? either way it's super coollllllllllll heheheheheh I'm very impressed rn

i was the only one in my class lol, my teacher was rlly sad when I dropped cause she was stuck with all the like piano, flute and chello kids (+randomly a recorder?)

actually aural was pretty chill for me cause I sing internationally so I have kinda been forced to do that stuff since I was like 7 lmao, but i miss doing the compositions...

YO RECORDER KID? that's insane, one of my teachers would love that! and international singing is sooooooo cool, I haven't really done much music on a wider scale I just do small things with my violin teacher which is fun

aural is okayyyyy I just don't like the extended response bc I don't wanna memorise all that
composition was simultaneously so stressful yet so fun (I've never been good at it, just look at all my failing 4-part harmony grades in AMEB) - glad I got to do it though!

 

[melanie_o]

whats the chance it could be a reflection on the stimulus? I saw that alot in 2025 trial papers i've been doing

In 2022, Mod C had a 5 mark reflection on the stimulus. This is very much something NESA could do again.

 

[erin_4school]

LOL no I'm basic, I'm a violinist! I go to a school where music 2 classes aren't very common tho, we get a couple of kids every few years

classical voice? either way it's super coollllllllllll heheheheheh I'm very impressed rn


YO RECORDER KID? that's insane, one of my teachers would love that! and international singing is sooooooo cool, I haven't really done much music on a wider scale I just do small things with my violin teacher which is fun

aural is okayyyyy I just don't like the extended response bc I don't wanna memorise all that
composition was simultaneously so stressful yet so fun (I've never been good at it, just look at all my failing 4-part harmony grades in AMEB) - glad I got to do it though!

yeah lol we r kinda known as a "music school" so we literally have a recorder club which has like 20 members (didn't know that many kids liked the recorder).

yeah the extended response is actually such a drag (glad i don't have to do it anymore lmao)

 

[erin_4school]

LOL no I'm basic, I'm a violinist! I go to a school where music 2 classes aren't very common tho, we get a couple of kids every few years

classical voice? either way it's super coollllllllllll heheheheheh I'm very impressed rn


YO RECORDER KID? that's insane, one of my teachers would love that! and international singing is sooooooo cool, I haven't really done much music on a wider scale I just do small things with my violin teacher which is fun

aural is okayyyyy I just don't like the extended response bc I don't wanna memorise all that
composition was simultaneously so stressful yet so fun (I've never been good at it, just look at all my failing 4-part harmony grades in AMEB) - glad I got to do it though!

did u apply for the con?

 

[Trial&Error]

In 2022, Mod C had a 5 mark reflection on the stimulus. This is very much something NESA could do again.

That's what my school predicted as well. They even made us do that in the trials. And my teacher specifically went through it in class. I really hope they ask that. I hate writing reflections.

 

[alphxreturns]

Did you just say JFK is boring. Oh hell nah

1 guy got shot but tbf he was pretty important. its not that deep tho

 

[killer queen]

did u apply for the con?

for high school or uni? either way no, I'm more interested in pursuing it as a hobby in future years, maybe as a side job as a freelancer

yeah lol we r kinda known as a "music school" so we literally have a recorder club which has like 20 members (didn't know that many kids liked the recorder).

yeah the extended response is actually such a drag (glad i don't have to do it anymore lmao)

wowwww fancy music school - maybe all the recorder kids wanted to take it home and annoy their parents, haha

why couldn't the musicology element have been a hand in