Harsh truth: tutoring won't fix your grades (2 Viewers)

[HazzRat]

If tutoring actually solved bad grades…

Why are so many students with tutors still stuck on C’s and D’s?

Why is it that every single student and parent who I speak to...always says 'we've been doing tutoring for years yet it hasn't worked'?

Here’s what no one tells you...

Tutoring was never designed to fix the real problem.

Most tutoring does this:

• Go over content you didn’t get in class
• Help with homework
• Go through some questions
• Repeat next week

Feels productive.
Looks productive.
Your parents feel like they’re “doing something.”

But nothing deep changes.

You still don’t know how to:

• Plan your week
• Study a topic from scratch
• Revise so you actually remember
• Stay disciplined when you “can’t be bothered”

So the second the tutor isn’t there...everything falls apart.

That’s not education.
That’s dependency.

Look, some tutors are great people. They care.

But if your goal is to turn an academic mess into a 90+ ATAR…

You don’t need more people explaining content to you.

You need a system that teaches you how to learn on your own.

That’s the difference between students who keep needing help forever…

And the ones who become independent, disciplined, top students.

If you feel like you’ve “tried everything” and you’re still stuck…

The problem isn’t you.

It’s the approach.

I've now helped literally over 150+ low-performing students get straight A's...and once again let me tell you something that happens every time.

EVERY SINGLE TIME I speak with both parents and students (happens daily)...I hear the same thing:

'We've been going to tutoring for years...and we're still not seeing good results'.

Yet...after just a few weeks-months of working with me...the student completely changes their life.

It's not because I'm giving them some magic spell lol - it's simply because i'm teaching them how to fix themselves!

And once I did this for myself back in year 11...I went from D's all my life to a 97+ ATAR and DUX of cohort against all odds.

Isn’t this just common sense. I did alright without a tutor.

 

[tigerian]

my tutoring goal is i dont get you better grades , YOU DO! Every time you do a task marked or unmarked , practice or serious marks ask yourself one question. What ONE THING ( there might be more than that but don’t look too far - so what thing) can I work on that makes this task better than the other one ? You be surprised how much improvement you ell make each time and how prepared you are for your trials then HSC .

if you need more info feel free to pm.
If you don’t agree then that’s ok too , see if we can find other solutions. It’s all up to you . But that’s how I run my tutoring and my hsc tutorials and my goals for my students

Regards

 

[BaulkoChemHater]

If tutoring actually solved bad grades…

Why are so many students with tutors still stuck on C’s and D’s?

Why is it that every single student and parent who I speak to...always says 'we've been doing tutoring for years yet it hasn't worked'?

Here’s what no one tells you...

Tutoring was never designed to fix the real problem.

Most tutoring does this:

• Go over content you didn’t get in class
• Help with homework
• Go through some questions
• Repeat next week

Feels productive.
Looks productive.
Your parents feel like they’re “doing something.”

But nothing deep changes.

You still don’t know how to:

• Plan your week
• Study a topic from scratch
• Revise so you actually remember
• Stay disciplined when you “can’t be bothered”

So the second the tutor isn’t there...everything falls apart.

That’s not education.
That’s dependency.

Look, some tutors are great people. They care.

But if your goal is to turn an academic mess into a 90+ ATAR…

You don’t need more people explaining content to you.

You need a system that teaches you how to learn on your own.

That’s the difference between students who keep needing help forever…

And the ones who become independent, disciplined, top students.

If you feel like you’ve “tried everything” and you’re still stuck…

The problem isn’t you.

It’s the approach.

I've now helped literally over 150+ low-performing students get straight A's...and once again let me tell you something that happens every time.

EVERY SINGLE TIME I speak with both parents and students (happens daily)...I hear the same thing:

'We've been going to tutoring for years...and we're still not seeing good results'.

Yet...after just a few weeks-months of working with me...the student completely changes their life.

It's not because I'm giving them some magic spell lol - it's simply because i'm teaching them how to fix themselves!

And once I did this for myself back in year 11...I went from D's all my life to a 97+ ATAR and DUX of cohort against all odds.

Doesn't really make sense to use anecdotal evidence to claim tutoring doesn't help and then use anecdotal evidence to show your method and guidance is good through how many students you helped. If you look at the objective reality, most students above 99 ATAR get tutoring. Most state ranks come from tutoring. Heck, I would say a decent proportion of students (not majority) above a 95 ATAR get tutoring and would vouch that it helped them. Most of the major tutoring centres have most of their students getting 90+ ATARs, and even then thats on the low side of the ATARs. And if you want to use anecdotal evidence, I was a low performing student (getting C's) who got a 99.65 ATAR after starting tutoring.

The things you claim to offer that tutoring doesn't are "helping you stay disciplined, learn how to plan, learn how to remember things better". I didn't mention the 2nd point about "studying a topic from scratch" because that doesn't really even make sense, since if you have a good tutor, they would be the one teaching you the topic from scratch, assuming that your teachers weren't doing that, eliminating the need to have to study from scratch. But even those 3 things you offer seem shallow for the cost you provide. From an outsider, hearing you charge 3000 a year for things that I could seemingly watch on youtube seems crazy. Literally. Motivational videos, study techniques, how to plan and calender my life, these are 10 minute videos I can watch on YouTube. It doesn't really seem quite clear what you actually offer that's meaningful enough to charge 3000 a year.

Your entire reasoning for why tutoring doesn't help just seems contingent upon your anecdotes, and even then, it just seems like those students you're mentioning just found bad tutors, not an inherent flaw in the tutoring system. You don't actually give reasons for why tutoring is inherently bad or doesn't help, you just listed some benefits and then said that it "lacked" some things (how to remember content, stay motivated, plan ur schedule which are already quite shallow things lol). If you can list some benefits and 0 downsides, that doesn't mean its bad, it just means its not perfect but still helpful. It means that a student who did tutoring is still going to do better than a student who didn't because it still offers benefits.

 

[Flatuitous]

From an outsider, hearing you charge 3000 a year for things that I could seemingly watch on youtube seems crazy. Literally. Motivational videos, study techniques, how to plan and calender my life, these are 10 minute videos I can watch on YouTube. It doesn't really seem quite clear what you actually offer that's meaningful enough to charge 3000 a year.

fr bro

i said this in the thread

so unless i'm wrong

what i'm hearing is that this guy runs little motivational speeches and charges a banh mi daily

and he replies with a defensive comment without even defending anything

You're the definition of talking crap LOL. That's not what it is AT ALL. Don't be the wrong to spread misinformation </3

For those of who you are ACTUALLY interested in what it's about, you can DM me personally.

I've helped 200+ students go from failing to achieving straight A's. Many achieve 90-95+ ATARs despite having failed school.

And no...it's NOT tutoring. I go against tutoring lol.

like what do you even offer bro
you couldn't even explain it to me

 

[BaulkoChemHater]

fr bro

i said this in the thread


and he replies with a defensive comment without even defending anything


like what do you even offer bro
you couldn't even explain it to me

What's funnier is I looked this guy's name up and he actually used to work as a private tutor right after graduating high school lol. You can find him when you google his name

So his teaching/studying philosophy about "independence" and "tutoring is useless" isn't something he realised in high school like he claims. If it is, then that means that he went against his own beliefs about tutoring in order to earn money (which in his view would essentially be the same as scamming students if he believes tutoring is useless), and if it isn't, then he's just lying and grifting to try attract students for money to his program. The main conclusion that I'm drawing at the moment is that his studying philosophy is just something he's made up to appear "niche" to try attract struggling and likely desperate students who haven't had major success with tutoring to draw profit. Then again, there's a chance I'm completely misunderstanding things here, but we won't really know until he can properly clarify anything about what he does.

 

[Flatuitous]

What's funnier is I looked this guy's name up and he actually used to work as a private tutor right after graduating high school lol. You can find him when you google his name

So his teaching/studying philosophy about "independence" and "tutoring is useless" isn't something he realised in high school like he claims. If it is, then that means that he went against his own beliefs about tutoring in order to earn money (which in his view would essentially be the same as scamming students if he believes tutoring is useless), and if it isn't, then he's just lying and grifting to try attract students for money to his program. The main conclusion that I'm drawing at the moment is that his studying philosophy is just something he's made up to appear "niche" to try attract struggling and likely desperate students who haven't had major success with tutoring to draw profit. Then again, there's a chance I'm completely misunderstanding things here, but we won't really know until he can properly clarify anything about what he does.

that's diabolical

 

[jazz_priv999]

What's funnier is I looked this guy's name up and he actually used to work as a private tutor right after graduating high school lol. You can find him when you google his name

So his teaching/studying philosophy about "independence" and "tutoring is useless" isn't something he realised in high school like he claims. If it is, then that means that he went against his own beliefs about tutoring in order to earn money (which in his view would essentially be the same as scamming students if he believes tutoring is useless), and if it isn't, then he's just lying and grifting to try attract students for money to his program. The main conclusion that I'm drawing at the moment is that his studying philosophy is just something he's made up to appear "niche" to try attract struggling and likely desperate students who haven't had major success with tutoring to draw profit. Then again, there's a chance I'm completely misunderstanding things here, but we won't really know until he can properly clarify anything about what he does.

yo are you friday?

 

[Flatuitous]

yo are you friday?

you are you saf?

 

[jazz_priv999]

you are you saf?

yes but dont tell anyone
is that friday

 

[BaulkoChemHater]

yo are you friday?

Nope, sorry, no idea who that is

 

[HazzRat]

Doesn't really make sense to use anecdotal evidence to claim tutoring doesn't help and then use anecdotal evidence to show your method and guidance is good through how many students you helped. If you look at the objective reality, most students above 99 ATAR get tutoring. Most state ranks come from tutoring. Heck, I would say a decent proportion of students (not majority) above a 95 ATAR get tutoring and would vouch that it helped them. Most of the major tutoring centres have most of their students getting 90+ ATARs, and even then thats on the low side of the ATARs. And if you want to use anecdotal evidence, I was a low performing student (getting C's) who got a 99.65 ATAR after starting tutoring.

The things you claim to offer that tutoring doesn't are "helping you stay disciplined, learn how to plan, learn how to remember things better". I didn't mention the 2nd point about "studying a topic from scratch" because that doesn't really even make sense, since if you have a good tutor, they would be the one teaching you the topic from scratch, assuming that your teachers weren't doing that, eliminating the need to have to study from scratch. But even those 3 things you offer seem shallow for the cost you provide. From an outsider, hearing you charge 3000 a year for things that I could seemingly watch on youtube seems crazy. Literally. Motivational videos, study techniques, how to plan and calender my life, these are 10 minute videos I can watch on YouTube. It doesn't really seem quite clear what you actually offer that's meaningful enough to charge 3000 a year.

Your entire reasoning for why tutoring doesn't help just seems contingent upon your anecdotes, and even then, it just seems like those students you're mentioning just found bad tutors, not an inherent flaw in the tutoring system. You don't actually give reasons for why tutoring is inherently bad or doesn't help, you just listed some benefits and then said that it "lacked" some things (how to remember content, stay motivated, plan ur schedule which are already quite shallow things lol). If you can list some benefits and 0 downsides, that doesn't mean its bad, it just means its not perfect but still helpful. It means that a student who did tutoring is still going to do better than a student who didn't because it still offers benefits.

I think the best counter argument against this is that tutoring is more of a correlation with high achieving students than a cause. Most students that go to tutoring are raised in environments where academics are valued, and are placed under pressure to score big. That means a lot of these students would do well regardless of the tutoring. However obviously tutoring does help when learning a subject, in the same way that going to the doctor regularly is obviously is a net positive for one’s health.