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I remember hearing that on tv you cant say "fag" unless you are gay, similarly its very bad to say "the N word" unless you are African America, and even then its supposed to be end in an "a"
Similarly, it should be just as outrageous to label 1 billion people as terrorists. how posters on this thread that were saying that muslims should be violent support a cartoon that labels every muslim as terrorists.
Muhammad is the founder of islam, if you call him a terrorist (even if light heartedly), you are basically implying that all who follow his teachings are terrorists. Who wouldnt be outraged with such a label.
Heck the Pentagon was calling a Iraq war cartoon satirising donald rumsfeld "beyond tasteless". They even threw out people for wearing t-shirts saying "**** killed in iraq bring them home" or "support our troops". Is that not also denying them their freedom.
Free speech has bounds in our democratic society, it is not ment to insult or offend people, however why shouldnt such ideals apply to this issue.
muslim people respect mohammad to the point that they would not even draw a positive picture of him, and yet the Dannish newspaper has the audacity to put someone in a negative light unjustly.
If people really do have rights, they have the right to not be labelled a terrorist because of some cartoon.
"Are Muslims trying to inforce their beliefs onto non-muslims, example being them tying to limit free speech?"
i was watching NBC TODAY, which dealt with that issue pretty nicely. Well think about it this way. Out of the Arab nations, Lebannon is the one that is considered free and most democratic, why? well this can be linked to OIL. All other arab nations have high reserves of OIL. All that a dictator (religous or military) has to do is capture an oil well, and then sell it to the WEST to remain in power. They dont care about providing their people with education, healthcare and proper security and a way of life. They just pump their oil and live in mansions.
Obviously they get the sweet life, if anyone wants to go against the government, which would ask that the people should get some of that country's wealth, well that just means less "oil money" for the dictator and more wasted on these people that demand rights. So whats the simplest thing to do when you are the most powerful person in that country, you just get rid of them, you dont let their points of view reach the public and deny them a right to live. They can usually justify their case with their religion, and when you are not giving a population a proper education, they are usually too stupid to realise they are being dooped and its either listen to GOD (err meaning the dictator of the country) or be against GoD (against the dictator).....like i said on many occassions this whole issue resembles "1984" in some way.
Sometimes the dictator is ousted, such as in IRAN, where the king that controlled the oil, thus the money was overthrown and in come these "holy religious leaders" who just hav to control the oil, and suddenly their power is as endless as the previous dictator.....these people can usually paint a religious face to their actions, so people will think they are right and all.
I have never considered such a view point, and i am just saying what the political analyst on NBC TODAY said....but i realise its apt and incredibly accurate, and i agree.
I mean the "free countries" of the WEST, are usually expected to give back the nations earnings to the people, they invest in the people, so these people can go to university and become important members of society. The arab dictators would usually just invest in OIL, and not care for people since that natural resource can provide for them well throughout their reign.
Well some countries seem to be shaping up and doing whats right, like Yemen or UAE, but others like Iraq used to be with Saddam just sold the oil, lived in marble and gold palaces while their people starved.
Similarly, it should be just as outrageous to label 1 billion people as terrorists. how posters on this thread that were saying that muslims should be violent support a cartoon that labels every muslim as terrorists.
Muhammad is the founder of islam, if you call him a terrorist (even if light heartedly), you are basically implying that all who follow his teachings are terrorists. Who wouldnt be outraged with such a label.
Heck the Pentagon was calling a Iraq war cartoon satirising donald rumsfeld "beyond tasteless". They even threw out people for wearing t-shirts saying "**** killed in iraq bring them home" or "support our troops". Is that not also denying them their freedom.
Free speech has bounds in our democratic society, it is not ment to insult or offend people, however why shouldnt such ideals apply to this issue.
muslim people respect mohammad to the point that they would not even draw a positive picture of him, and yet the Dannish newspaper has the audacity to put someone in a negative light unjustly.
If people really do have rights, they have the right to not be labelled a terrorist because of some cartoon.
"Are Muslims trying to inforce their beliefs onto non-muslims, example being them tying to limit free speech?"
i was watching NBC TODAY, which dealt with that issue pretty nicely. Well think about it this way. Out of the Arab nations, Lebannon is the one that is considered free and most democratic, why? well this can be linked to OIL. All other arab nations have high reserves of OIL. All that a dictator (religous or military) has to do is capture an oil well, and then sell it to the WEST to remain in power. They dont care about providing their people with education, healthcare and proper security and a way of life. They just pump their oil and live in mansions.
Obviously they get the sweet life, if anyone wants to go against the government, which would ask that the people should get some of that country's wealth, well that just means less "oil money" for the dictator and more wasted on these people that demand rights. So whats the simplest thing to do when you are the most powerful person in that country, you just get rid of them, you dont let their points of view reach the public and deny them a right to live. They can usually justify their case with their religion, and when you are not giving a population a proper education, they are usually too stupid to realise they are being dooped and its either listen to GOD (err meaning the dictator of the country) or be against GoD (against the dictator).....like i said on many occassions this whole issue resembles "1984" in some way.
Sometimes the dictator is ousted, such as in IRAN, where the king that controlled the oil, thus the money was overthrown and in come these "holy religious leaders" who just hav to control the oil, and suddenly their power is as endless as the previous dictator.....these people can usually paint a religious face to their actions, so people will think they are right and all.
I have never considered such a view point, and i am just saying what the political analyst on NBC TODAY said....but i realise its apt and incredibly accurate, and i agree.
I mean the "free countries" of the WEST, are usually expected to give back the nations earnings to the people, they invest in the people, so these people can go to university and become important members of society. The arab dictators would usually just invest in OIL, and not care for people since that natural resource can provide for them well throughout their reign.
Well some countries seem to be shaping up and doing whats right, like Yemen or UAE, but others like Iraq used to be with Saddam just sold the oil, lived in marble and gold palaces while their people starved.