Pope recieves last rights...... (2 Viewers)

[Phanatical]

If I remember my scripture classes correctly, the Viaticum (the Last Rites) refers to the giving of prayers, specifically the Eucharist, to one who is very sick and is believed to be about to pass. "Viaticum" actually comes from the Latin for the provisions for a journey, and in the Catholic sense refers to the journey from Life to Death.

 

[gordo]

the pope is now maybe in a coma

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Pope-slips-into-coma--reports/2005/04/01/1112302197160.html

 

[Korn]

A "young" Pope isn't that likely (unless you mean the youngest of all the Cardinals), as you basically have to work your way up the ladder from Priest to Bishop, Archbishop, Cardinal and then Pope (there may be more steps in there). We're not ging to see someoen who's 30 or 40 years old ascend to the Papacy as just about every single Cardinal is in his late 50s or older.

You have forgotten Montsiegnor

 

[Korn]

If I remember Year 10 Religion right, that position is virtually no longer in existence for reaons that I can't remember. But it's not an 'offical rank' any more.

Are u sure, cause i know ppl in the ministry and i thought it still existed

 

[Korn]

Pretty sure. Our teacher's brother-in-law was a priest so he knew his subject, even if he was a hopeless teacher with an un-pronouncable name.

Yeah my uncles a priest, so i guess i could ask him, but i couldnt be fucked

 

[leetom]

The Pope should use his final hours to declare a Crusade and rescue the Holy Land, using the oppurtunity to die gloriously in battle.

 

[MoonlightSonata]

I think I found the cause of his sickness

 

[chookyn]

lol!! classic image.

 

[Iron]

An ode to My Fellow American Pope-anator:

He's the man in the white suit
He's fifty and single, but not a fruit
Is he dull? No, not this kid
He holds more audiences than Jolson did.

'Cos He's the Pope
And He's the bloke
Always ready with a joke
The Papal Bull, it don't go 'Moo'
He's got all this and Vatican II.

 

[SashatheMan]

no no . the pope is dieing becuase of a secret rockn roll life full of drugs and women
Poping it up

 

[gordo]

maybe its an april fools joke?

 

[Monkey Butler]

the pope is now maybe in a coma

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Pope-slips-into-coma--reports/2005/04/01/1112302197160.html

OMG11!!!!! RITE 2 LIFEEE!!! DONT PULL DA PLUGZZZ!!!!!

And Today Today is never funny in that none of their jokes are humourous and the presenters constantly make me want to turn off the radio (which I do) when I hear their annoying voices.

 

[walrusbear]

the pope cant retire as it would invalidate the theory of papal infallability...its a job for life


and way to bag out a dying person who has actually done some good things for our society

*claps hands*

(and no, this is not meant to turn this into a religious discussion on the merits or perceived negatives of the Catholic Church.....Im talking about the other things he has done in his role as a major world/political leader)

stupid typos....

'papal infallibility' is a frequently misunderstood and overextended idea
it refers only to new dogma he creates and THAT IS ALL

anyways, good to see him pass (not for the human being to die, but what he stands for is ridiculous and retrograde)
i know another neo-con fucker is going to take his place, so i needn't care, but it's like reagan dying, y'know
oh well
passing of the guard to some other clueless fuckwit

 

[Lexicographer]

Shut the fuck up. This is not a night to be attacking a man for having views you don't agree with. Let him die in peace.

 

[withoutaface]

I agree, some respect and maturity is in order.

 

[snapperhead]

'papal infallibility' is a frequently misunderstood and overextended idea
it refers only to new dogma he creates and THAT IS ALL

anyways, good to see him pass (not for the human being to die, but what he stands for is ridiculous and retrograde)
i know another neo-con fucker is going to take his place, so i needn't care, but it's like reagan dying, y'know
oh well
passing of the guard to some other clueless fuckwit

not quite. There can only be one bishop of Rome (ie the Pope) so have two at the same time would invalidate the concept of the Pope being 'the Pope'....they have tried it in the past and it didnt work
+ he isnt the only one making the decissions (look up Joe Ratzinger)
as for the good things he has done, where do you start?
He is a world political leader (some would say the second most powerful after the US president). Take the religious side out of the job (as I know that his stance on certain Catholic issues is what most people would be thinking of...but then, thats his job!). I would say his example, his support for social justice issues and the like and the hope he brings to most devout Catholics would be the main beneficial 'stuff' that Im talking about
(note that Im trying to keep as unbiased and non-religious as possible- my main point was that he is dying and he should be given some respect- the same respect any dying person deserves)

@ jess..Uniting Church=http://www.uca.org.au/...they have a decentralised leadership model (like most Protestant Churches) from memory

 

[Xayma]

Actually Papal Infalliability only refers to new dogma he creates when "speaking from the throne" it isn't always clear when he was speaking from the throne and when he wasn't. As far as I know only two things have been confirmed to have been speaking from the throne, that of the Virgin Mary, bodily ascending to heaven and something else.

But yes, two popes wouldn't work, because it isn't clear when he is speaking from the throne.

Snapperhead, haven't some pope's later became antipopes having been retracted from the position. Antipope Dioscorus I think, but that was after his death. Celestine II as well, who submitted despite being legitimate.

The pope has done much to being catholicism out of the dark age, although his social stance may be a bit behind, he supports the Big Bang theory and has supported discussions on it in the Vatican.

On that note, any member of the catholic church is able to become Pope, in the 1958 elections (around that time) I think an ArchBishop obtained a few votes. But invariably they elect one of their own to become pope.

Also Tristan he can resign:

§2. If it happens that the Roman Pontiff resigns his office, it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested but not that it is accepted by anyone.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P16.HTM

It has also happened before Pope Gregory XII was the last however and that was a few hundred years back.

 

[Korn]

Actually Papal Infalliability only refers to new dogma he creates when "speaking from the throne" it isn't always clear when he was speaking from the throne and when he wasn't. As far as I know only two things have been confirmed to have been speaking from the throne, that of the Virgin Mary, bodily ascending to heaven and something else.

But yes, two popes wouldn't work, because it isn't clear when he is speaking from the throne.

Snapperhead, haven't some pope's later became antipopes having been retracted from the position. Antipope Dioscorus I think, but that was after his death. Celestine II as well, who submitted despite being legitimate.

The pope has done much to being catholicism out of the dark age, although his social stance may be a bit behind, he supports the Big Bang theory and has supported discussions on it in the Vatican.

On that note, any member of the catholic church is able to become Pope, in the 1958 elections (around that time) I think an ArchBishop obtained a few votes. But invariably they elect one of their own to become pope.

Also Tristan he can resign:

§2. If it happens that the Roman Pontiff resigns his office, it is required for validity that the resignation is made freely and properly manifested but not that it is accepted by anyone.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P16.HTM

The latest news doesnt look good for the pope

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=47435

 

[Comrade nathan]

Who ever prays for the pope to get better is a fool to think he will.

 

[gordo]

the vatican hasn;t announced his death yet