Pope recieves last rights...... (3 Viewers)

[Lexicographer]

Though the sacrament of ordination is technically without dispensation, if a priest (or other religious) leaves then it means the vocation was incorrectly discerned, and thus the sacrament is void.

Like an annulment of marriage - it was never truly present. That is not to say that they were never authorised to execute their duties (eg consecrating the Eucharist, hearing confessions etc) but rather it was not the path given to them by the Spirit, and so they have a dispensation of sorts.

In this way priests etc are able to "leave" religious life.

 

[Korn]

No, he cant. Not officially.

The only thing that i think should be implement by the next pope is married priests, thats about all

 

[Abbeygale]

I don't really have an opinion on married priests, but I've always wondered why Catholic priests are celibate. Is it commanded in the Bible somewhere? After all, Jewish rabbis are able to get married, aren't they?

 

[Korn]

I don't really have an opinion on married priests, but I've always wondered why Catholic priests are celibate. Is it commanded in the Bible somewhere? After all, Jewish rabbis are able to get married, aren't they?

I think it has to do with Jesus not being married and the priest can devote their entire life to the Church

 

[Iron]

I'd like to be the first advocate for the Pell for Papacy Push if I may.

 

[snapperhead]

I think it has to do with Jesus not being married and the priest can devote their entire life to the Church

more to do with devotion and not really anything to do with Jesus

 

[Abbeygale]

It'd be interesting. But what actually are the odds of a non-European pope?

 

[Korn]

I'd like to be the first advocate for the Pell for Papacy Push if I may.

Yeah i was thinking that but there has been contraversy about him in the past hasnt there

 

[snapperhead]

I'd like to be the first advocate for the Pell for Papacy Push if I may.

lol........

 

[Lexicographer]

No, but the Catholic Church doesn't take all of its teachings from the Bible alone (because that leads to excessively literal interpretations, and eventually fundamentalism). The Catholic Church has another set of texts known as the Tradition, or the Magisterium, and these are the writings of the great figures (notably the Doctors of the Church), considered to be inspired by the Holy Spirit.

These are the primary theological documents of the Church Fathers (note also that there are female Doctors - like St Therese of Liseux). It is here that the theological basis of celibacy is explained.

As I understand it (was explained to me by Bishop Anthony Fisher of Sydney), marriage is all about giving. In marriage you give yourself entirely to your husband and wife, and s/he gives her/himself entirely to you. However in religious life (priests, nuns, monks, deacons, etc) a person is called to give him/herself entirely to the service of God. Certainly marriage is itself a vocation, but imagine the difficulty in giving your very life both to God and your wife?

You could not possibly give yourself entirely to both.

 

[Korn]

It'd be interesting. But what actually are the odds of a non-European pope?

Quite high, as Latin America make up about 50% of Catholics, and it is thought that the pope will be from there

 

[Xayma]

I think it has to do with Jesus not being married and the priest can devote their entire life to the Church

As far as I can remember, Im not 100% sure if this was the case with the Catholic church but it was with some church, is that priests were allowed to get married, however, they started leaving their assests to their wives rather than the church which they are expected to do.

 

[Lexicographer]

I'd like to be the first advocate for the Pell for Papacy Push if I may.

Pell has been a Cardinal for all of one years. He's not going to be Pope.

 

[Korn]

As far as I can remember, Im not 100% sure if this was the case with the Catholic church but it was with some church, is that priests were allowed to get married, however, they started leaving their assests to their wives rather than the church which they are expected to do.

I dont think priests actually have any assets, they are supplied pretty much everything by the Church. They get cars, accomodation, phones, food, clothes

 

[Lexicographer]

I dont think priests actually have any assets, they are supplied pretty much everything by the Church. They get cars, accomodation, phones, food, clothes

No, he is partially right. One of the (economic) reasons for the requirement of celibacy was that if a priest were to inherit assets, they would go to the church at his death. But if he were to have a wife (and, being catholic, children) then there lay the possibility of a claim against the church for these assets.

 

[snapperhead]

It'd be interesting. But what actually are the odds of a non-European pope?

If Uncle Joe has anything to do with it...0%

*Uncle Joe= Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He is the Popes right hand man or as his official title, the prefect of doctrine

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/profile/

 

[Korn]

No, he is partially right. One of the (economic) reasons for the requirement of celibacy was that if a priest were to inherit assets, they would go to the church at his death. But if he were to have a wife (and, being catholic, children) then there lay the possibility of a claim against the church for these assets.

Are u serious, so if my uncle were to get an inheritance he would have to eventually give that to the church

 

[Lexicographer]

No no, I'm talking a thousand years ago. Inheritance was different then.

 

[snapperhead]

though Korn is right as to where priests obtain most of their possessions.
The same goes for the monastic orders as well (I lived with the Christian Brothers for 4 years)
and their possessions (even those given to them from outside of the Church) usually revert back to their order for re-use) (not sure about PP's though...maybe back to the diocese?)

 

[Korn]

If Uncle Joe has anything to do with it...0%

*Uncle Joe= Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He is the Popes right hand man or as his official title, the prefect of doctrine

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/profile/

I hope we get another young pope and lives for a long time