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The Mathew Johns Sex scandal. (3 Viewers)

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Exactly Four Corners found her. She didnt go to some accurrent affairs show to brag about it. This wasnt initiated by her, if it was, then its part proof that shes some attention grabbing whore. But it isnt. Four Corners merely triggered years of damage pent up within her.
SHE COULD HAVE SAID NO, INSTEAD OF REHASHING BASELESS CLAIMS FROM 7 YEARS AGO

Have some freken sympathy. People react erratically in emotional situations. For all we know, her bragging could be a desperate plea for help. Ofcourse this is all hypothesis
And it's a shit hypothesis. It's just as valid for us to say that she wasn't affected by this at all, hence the bragging. See how it works?

This isnt implicating that the league players actually did anything wrong LEGALLY. But morally and ethically, one would think they have more responsibilities, being in the public spotlight, and being a national sport, representing all Australians.
Morally and ethically fuck off. There is nothing immoral about group sex. And these half wits don't represent all Australians, what sort of retard are you?
 

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In no uncertain terms, what are the moral and ethical responsibilties of professional footballers?

And how did their behaviour in this incident go outside those boundarys?
 

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Exactly Four Corners found her. She didnt go to some accurrent affairs show to brag about it. This wasnt initiated by her, if it was, then its part proof that shes some attention grabbing whore. But it isnt. Four Corners merely triggered years of damage pent up within her.

Have some freken sympathy. People react erratically in emotional situations. For all we know, her bragging could be a desperate plea for help. Ofcourse this is all hypothesis. But obviously she regreaded the event after it occuring, which lead to traumatic psychological damage; i.e. "wrist cutting", "alchool".

This isnt implicating that the league players actually did anything wrong LEGALLY. But morally and ethically, one would think they have more responsibilities, being in the public spotlight, and being a national sport, representing all Australians.
fully agreed
 

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Exactly Four Corners found her. She didnt go to some accurrent affairs show to brag about it. This wasnt initiated by her, if it was, then its part proof that shes some attention grabbing whore. But it isnt. Four Corners merely triggered years of damage pent up within her.

Have some freken sympathy. People react erratically in emotional situations. For all we know, her bragging could be a desperate plea for help. Ofcourse this is all hypothesis. But obviously she regreaded the event after it occuring, which lead to traumatic psychological damage; i.e. "wrist cutting", "alchool".

This isnt implicating that the league players actually did anything wrong LEGALLY. But morally and ethically, one would think they have more responsibilities, being in the public spotlight, and being a national sport, representing all Australians.

okay so now you're saying that anyone who enjoys consensual group sex is immoral and unethical

good going guy
 

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Exactly Four Corners found her. She didnt go to some accurrent affairs show to brag about it. This wasnt initiated by her, if it was, then its part proof that shes some attention grabbing whore. But it isnt. Four Corners merely triggered years of damage pent up within her.

Have some freken sympathy. People react erratically in emotional situations. For all we know, her bragging could be a desperate plea for help. Ofcourse this is all hypothesis. But obviously she regreaded the event after it occuring, which lead to traumatic psychological damage; i.e. "wrist cutting", "alchool".

This isnt implicating that the league players actually did anything wrong LEGALLY. But morally and ethically, one would think they have more responsibilities, being in the public spotlight, and being a national sport, representing all Australians.
Exactly. She regretted it after it happened, not while it was happening. That isn't Matt Johns' fault, or any of the other guys involved
 

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uhh ohkay well first i think it sucks matty johns is getting left to take all the blame for everything that happened that night..He didnt rape her as she consented to have sex with him and his friend and went back to the room and did..but what happened was still wrong..she didnt consent to have sex, be abused and assualted by all the others involved.. what matty did wasnt illegal but it was wrong, if he was such a good bloke like everyone reckons he wouldnt have walked outta the room once he was done as he knew what they were doing to her..

im not sticking up for the chick either cause i think she was a huge slurry to agree to have sex with both of them but noone deserves what happened to her, she is a human like the rest of us, she has emotions and she obviously made a bad choice which ended really badly for her, its possible shes lying but i just dont think so..i mean youd judge the situation differently if you found out it happened to your friend, sister or even mum and the media is just overreacting like they always do so you shouldnt believe everything you hear!! ohh and she didnt make any profit from the story as four corners doesnt pay for interviews, they approached her and she hasnt made a single cent outta any of this...
 

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uhh ohkay well first i think it sucks matty johns is getting left to take all the blame for everything that happened that night..He didnt rape her as she consented to have sex with him and his friend and went back to the room and did..but what happened was still wrong..she didnt consent to have sex, be abused and assualted by all the others involved.. what matty did wasnt illegal but it was wrong, if he was such a good bloke like everyone reckons he wouldnt have walked outta the room once he was done as he knew what they were doing to her..

im not sticking up for the chick either cause i think she was a huge slurry to agree to have sex with both of them but noone deserves what happened to her, she is a human like the rest of us, she has emotions and she obviously made a bad choice which ended really badly for her, its possible shes lying but i just dont think so..i mean youd judge the situation differently if you found out it happened to your friend, sister or even mum and the media is just overreacting like they always do so you shouldnt believe everything you hear!! ohh and she didnt make any profit from the story as four corners doesnt pay for interviews, they approached her and she hasnt made a single cent outta any of this...

Your whole argument is pretty retarded tbh

*She didnt not consent to any other players having sex with her. Infact she allegedly asked them to.
*How is matthew johns at fault for not stopping other men having consensual (or non consensual) sex with her. That is not his responsibilty at all in no way shape or form and anyone who thinks so is a moron.
*What do you mean he knew what they were going to do to her? he left the room after she asked "someone" to come forward and have sex with her, when one player did, she said anyone but you and asked matthew to have sex with her again, at which point her declined and left the room. WHERE IS THE PROBLEM THERE?
*How is she a "huge slurry" because she wanted to have sex with 2 men you retarded moral crusading prude? Who are you to judge her because of this?
*WHAT HAPPENED TO HER? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS AT ALL? SHE ASKED TO BE FUCKED AND SHE WAS FUCKED?
*WHY SHOULD MATTHEW JOHNS OR ANY OTHER PLAYER PAY FOR HER BAD CHOICES? WHAT THE FUCK? EVER HEARD OF TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS?
*We know she wasn't paid for the interview dear, we arent retarded, unlike someone.




everyone rep me for this cos im so fuckin drunk i can barely type thanks
 

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Lentern I hope you're trolling because that's basically Rousseau-esque fascism right there.
I am not trolling but I think the point was not untirely understood. I do not actually believe the government need extend its arm further rather that the law is not so great that it alone decides what is right and wrong. That Johns commited no crime does not mea Johns did nothing the public should dissaprove of.
 

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Maybe they all had small cocks or only last 30 secs each or something. And it has taken 7 years for her to finally bring her disappoint to life. Her "you disgust me" comment could be interpreted like this.
 

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And now the truth comes out.
Former Sharks player Daniel Ninness admits role in Matthew Johns group sex incident | National News | News.com.au

TWO more players have emerged in the Sharks group sex scandal, with former player Daniel Ninness revealing he went home with the woman after the incident but at no stage had sex with her.

"We were gathered as a team in an establishment in Christchurch. After we left the establishment I returned to my motel," he said.

"I saw a light on in one of my fellow player's rooms and went to see them. I entered the room. I saw the woman in question in the room. I did not see any sexual acts.

"I left the room. We were gathered outside the room and chatting. The woman who was in the hotel room approached me and invited me back to her home. She drove me to her home.

"I did not have sex with this woman. After a short period of time, the woman drove me back to the motel."

Ninness, who now plays for Helensburgh in the Illawarra competition, never played first grade in the NRL but was a promising junior, The Daily Telegraph reports.

Ninness was close friends at the time with former halfback Brett Firman, who along with Johns has been identified as having sex with the then 19-year-old woman.

The Nine Network last night named a second player who the woman reportedly rejected in favour of requesting a "second turn" with Johns, which Johns said he declined.

The player, who now plays in England, was reportedly the butt of jokes by Sharks players in the week following the sordid hotel incident.

Ex-workmates at the Racecourse Hotel, where the woman worked, have said the teenager boasted of having sex with two local rugby players in the toilets of a nightclub the night before she met with the Cronulla players.

Former Racecourse hotel owner John Butterfield said she "gloated to staff about the great night she had and how she got them into the men's toilets and had a bit of fun with them."

He said the woman spoke for four days about the night she had with members of the Cronulla team.

"She just did nothing but tell all the staff about the great night she had and to put it crudely, had the whole team in bed with her," Mr Butterfield said.


The family of the girl reportedly learned of her involvement for the first time yesterday after being contacted by the Nine network.

Paul Gallen had also walked into the room after numerous players had had sex with the woman but did not take part himself.

Preston Campbell, who was on tour with the Cronulla Sharks during the now infamous tour, said he was not in the room when the sex took place. He said he did not believe players coming forward would help the situation.
 

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*She didnt not consent to any other players having sex with her. Infact she allegedly asked them to.
*How is matthew johns at fault for not stopping other men having consensual (or non consensual) sex with her. That is not his responsibilty at all in no way shape or form and anyone who thinks so is a moron.
*What do you mean he knew what they were going to do to her? he left the room after she asked "someone" to come forward and have sex with her, when one player did, she said anyone but you and asked matthew to have sex with her again, at which point her declined and left the room. WHERE IS THE PROBLEM THERE?
*How is she a "huge slurry" because she wanted to have sex with 2 men you retarded moral crusading prude? Who are you to judge her because of this?
*WHAT HAPPENED TO HER? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS AT ALL? SHE ASKED TO BE FUCKED AND SHE WAS FUCKED?
*WHY SHOULD MATTHEW JOHNS OR ANY OTHER PLAYER PAY FOR HER BAD CHOICES? WHAT THE FUCK? EVER HEARD OF TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS?
*We know she wasn't paid for the interview dear, we arent retarded, unlike someone.




everyone rep me for this cos im so fuckin drunk i can barely type thanks
hmm okay well first she 'allegedly' asked for other players to have sex with her, i know she didnt say no once, she didnt try and stop them, she said that on four corners. that is her fault on her behalf as other players may of been unaware of her dissaproval (if there was any at the time). im not saying what they did was illegal but everyone has there own opinions, she didnt consent she didnt say no so was it still right to do it to her?? i dont know cause i wasnt there..but on matty johns i understand he had consentual sex with her and he left the room after, he also said after everyone else was done he went upto her and said sorry for what happened to her. I get hes not responsible for what happened in the room after he left you got me on that point..in no way at all is it his fault, nor should he be blamed for everything that happened..

And the reason i think shes a slurry is because she agreed to have sex with two men she hardly knows, only because of their fame..and because she has done it before with other footballers from other teams (knights i think they said)..but that is purely opinion.And i think she must really regret it and could just be making it all up....

She just wanted to sell the story for money =3=;;
yea im sure you all know she doesnt just want the money!!
 

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But why was he stood down, he wasn't under contract with channel nine or the melbourne storm when it happened?

if you ask me its just a typical, bureaucratic knee jerk reaction. its not like that sort of thing doesn't happen all the time anyway, just look on any porn site.
 

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But why was he stood down, he wasn't under contract with channel nine or the melbourne storm when it happened?

if you ask me its just a typical, bureaucratic knee jerk reaction. its not like that sort of thing doesn't happen all the time anyway, just look on any porn site.
Fucking read the thread, we're not going to explain this for the 39758th time.
 

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The role of the government is to set minimum standards of conduct. I believe this standard should basically be; do not physically hurt anyone else, or their property.
Eehhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i'd say that (for instance) there are cases of rape where there's little physical harm but a lot of emotional harm, which the government should surely protect against.
 

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I agree. In this case I don't disapprove of what he did, but I can see why others would. Suffice to say, there are things a person could do legally, which I would disapprove of.

The role of the government is to set minimum standards of conduct. I believe this standard should basically be; do not physically hurt anyone else, or their property.

Also, you've changed your tune. In the first, decidedly more fascist post, you did say the government should extend its arm further.

You know the usual libertarian arguments I would pose against this. But alternatively consider; could regulations about such things as "sex with people who may be too foolish to fully understand the potential future ramifications of their actions" actually be effective. How could you create laws about such things that could be enforced consistently and fairly and without punishing innocent people (obviously I think they are all innocent, but I'm considering things within your moralistic framework)?
Saying that the government should extend its arm further was not meant to be taken literally. What I meant was if society wants to enjoy the liberties it does now it cannot let "socially acceptable" and "legal" become the same thing.
 

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