I got a question- im trying out for the selective school for entry into year 11 and was wondering what is the difference between the HAST, EDUTEST and the selective test? They seem similar but how are the question styles different?
selective is held in yr 6 in nsw and yr 8 in vic (correct me if im wrong) for entry into the next year of high school, so it's a one time thing that a large number of ppl do. vic uses edutest for their selective entry and so do some top selective schools in nsw for yr 8-11 entry (so if you want to get into a selective school after yr 6 selective). hast is the yr 8-11 entry exam that most selectives in sydney use. the difficulty obv changes as you write it in diff years, so if i do edutest or hast in yr 10 compared to yr 8 its not the same exam and it will be harder.I got a question- im trying out for the selective school for entry into year 11 and was wondering what is the difference between the HAST, EDUTEST and the selective test? They seem similar but how are the question styles different?
r u still trying to sghs this year?ended up getting my results they were actually good but still sgghs dropped in hsc ranks again
uhh if you still have a choice i would not recommend doing both hast and edutest in the same year (not sure if you were planning to). and about how you should study for each test, depends on which ones you are doing.and i cmae across Baulkham Hills and for entry into year 8-11 u need to take the edutest but the other schools likes fort street and all u have the acer hast. and I im trying to practice for them but i cant really figure out if I should study for the hast differently then the edutest.
to my understanding, yeah that is the main difference, but considering i did edutest at a higher grade level i think its natural that i would find it harder, maybe acer also gets harder but i hear that its easier in comparison.I see what ur saying abt the edutest being harder cause of the time pressure but like is that the only main difference between the two? And like on the
what did u use to study for the selective test in year 10? cause like the exam could be a bit similar to if i were to take it in for entry into year 11 im assumin
probably idk if i dont get it idrmr u still trying to sghs this year?
did ya get in to what u wanted toto my understanding, yeah that is the main difference, but considering i did edutest at a higher grade level i think its natural that i would find it harder, maybe acer also gets harder but i hear that its easier in comparison.
i actually did edutest in yr 9 for yr 10 entry, sorry abt the confusion. i just used the edutest practice papers and grinded them and also looked up question types that i didnt really get e.g. in numerical reasoning i sucked at matrices so i searched up 'matrix questions numerical reasoning' and a bunch of yt results from other exams like the yr 6 selective or job stuff came up and they provided explanations and strategies - this works for the reasoning and math sections. i did hast in yr 7 and 8 so i cant give concrete advice about that because the only acer prac papers available cater to yr 7 and 8 and also this was kind of a long time ago and things could have changed.
huge disclaimer i was in yr 9 2 years ago so there could have been changes (to my knowledge there aren't) but get other people's advice too. good luck!!!
omg wait same!!! i wanan try for sghs but idk if that too much of chnage given that yr 11 is an important yearanyone recommend best selective schools to apply for entry into yr 11 2025? i am desperate to move to sghs but want to expand my choices. also how do i study for edutest? considering it will be hard as i am in yr 10 studying at penriht
i got really ambitious and tried for ruse and then nsg loll. from what i know they take your marks and rank you in bands based on the ppl that wrote edutest in your specific cohort. so i didnt make it for ruse but i got an interview for nsg pretty early on and decided to drop out of the waitlist thing before i got in (still dont know whether or not i would have gotten in but even before they had taken kids in i was 2nd in line or smth like that). kind of a stupid decision bc i go to penrith right now which is ranked way lower but i have to travel close to 4 hours each school day both ways for nsg (assuming there aren't any transport delays) and i ultimately decided it wasn't worth it lolldid ya get in to what u wanted to
The official edutest tests were extremely useless. Cause they are really easy in comparison to what is given in the test. Its also extremely misleading. You can lose like 2 marks in the edutests practice tests, and this is not a good indicator by any means to what will happen in the real test. This is generally a very honest opinion as someone who sat the tests last year and made all the top 3 schools: baulko, nsb, ruse (which all do edutest). SAVE YOUR MONEY.uhh if you still have a choice i would not recommend doing both hast and edutest in the same year (not sure if you were planning to). and about how you should study for each test, depends on which ones you are doing.
if you are doing just edutest and are serious about it, purchase the official edutest tests (which you have access to when you enrol through the school) because they are the best kind of practise you can get out there. if you are doing just acer see my reply above about those test banks like notesedu (which by the way are not very reputable bc acer doesnt put out practice tests for higher grades for people too refer to but if youre doing hast it's your best bet). if you are doing both i would say do just edutest practise, because i feel there is overlap and studying for both seperately will be overwhelming and considering you have to keep up your school grades for selective admission i would not suggest both (please consult someone who has done hast more recently tho, like i said im not entirely sure and stupid acer doesnt have practice papers for yr 10).
always impressed at how well Sethio writes. agree that edutest practice papers are useless. total waste of time and you might get a wrong impression that it is really easy.The official edutest tests were extremely useless. Cause they are really easy in comparison to what is given in the test. Its also extremely misleading. You can lose like 2 marks in the edutests practice tests, and this is not a good indicator by any means to what will happen in the real test. This is generally a very honest opinion as someone who sat the tests last year and made all the top 3 schools: baulko, nsb, ruse (which all do edutest). SAVE YOUR MONEY.
So what I would recommend for anyone sitting edutest:
The test is heavily a game of speed and not knowledge and skill. The "skill" is being able to identify the pattern, formula, or whatever related to the question and quickly answering it. Nothing should make you sit there and just ponder for 1 min, the questions aren't designed for that. If you find yourself pondering, just skip and come back.
An important thing I learnt, although it sounds inherently trivial, is that EVERY QUESTION IS WORTH THE SAME. No matter how hard they are they are worth the EXACT same. One Mark. So if you skip a question sure you may drop that "one mark" but in return you gain 5 marks of easier questions later on because you skipped it and sacrificed that mark. I hope that's clear enough. So don't feel bad or worried cause you skipped a question.
If you want a general marker of what to expect. The numerical reasoning and verbal reasoning last year was pretty cooked. in the sense that speed was not in your favour. but I vividly recall being totally unsure about the last 10 questions because of time. I was like many others and didn't realise how important speed was. the questions weren't inherently "hard" I just pondered too long on different questions and didn't understand that "one mark" concept. And then albeit those 10, we can safely assume I may have dropped AT LEAST 5 in the rest of the paper just from general mistakes.
while this was a year ago, that's legit a 45/60 (maybe on the lower end and a bit lenient), that still got me a superior (highest band). The tests are pretty cooked regardless of how good you may be. I think if I approached it different I would've scored much better, but that's in the past and it's calm. BUT DONT BE LIKE ME
Anyways, yuh the notesedu has some pretty good resources, victorian selective school tests, there is a TSS vocabulary sheet for anyone looking to improve vocab and that stuff. Generally just search in google "Selective school Victoria Questions" or "Edutest Practice". Legit do HAST practice or ACER test practice it doesn't matter. The questions may vary but the concepts are the same.
And then for those worrying about the test. don't.
It's really not that big of a decision factor. The test is more of a "barrier of entry". It just "separates" the applicants to make applications easier to review. I mean a school reviewing 500 applications is tedious. But the test can basically categorise the top "some number" and then "prioritise" those applications. This number is still pretty big. BUT DON'T BE DECEIVED. You still have to perform well. But don't think there are "10 spots", I must come top 10 or something. No, it's legit just a precursor to your application. It allows the school to dwindle down the number of applications they have to look at. So just perform relatively good and let your application speak for itself.
Obviously on the other end of the spectrum, you can look to perform EXCEPTIONAL in the test and stand as an outlier to the school. but if you can do that, props to you, I have nothing to say. have fun at ruse cuh.
aight that's enough yapping. good luck guys
yeah see i have no clue how it's been changed since i wrote it. thanks for your input guysedutest practice papers are useless
could you share the links and all of practice test and stuff u used to study im taking it this year for entry into year 11 hopefully?Just did the HAST test
Could you provide the hast material u used to study please?Fort for Year 11. Test was easier than last year, but i'd recommend anyone who does it to study for at least 2 month. I may be able to provide some HAST materials for future students. IMO reading was hardest and abstract was easiest. Math was very time consuming and the writing topic was good, but after some reflection, I would strongly advise people doing the test in the future to develop a poem based on famous sayings. The year 11 writing topic in 2023 was "We are never satisfied with what we have".
do u have any specific resources you used to study?The official edutest tests were extremely useless. Cause they are really easy in comparison to what is given in the test. Its also extremely misleading. You can lose like 2 marks in the edutests practice tests, and this is not a good indicator by any means to what will happen in the real test. This is generally a very honest opinion as someone who sat the tests last year and made all the top 3 schools: baulko, nsb, ruse (which all do edutest). SAVE YOUR MONEY.
So what I would recommend for anyone sitting edutest:
The test is heavily a game of speed and not knowledge and skill. The "skill" is being able to identify the pattern, formula, or whatever related to the question and quickly answering it. Nothing should make you sit there and just ponder for 1 min, the questions aren't designed for that. If you find yourself pondering, just skip and come back.
An important thing I learnt, although it sounds inherently trivial, is that EVERY QUESTION IS WORTH THE SAME. No matter how hard they are they are worth the EXACT same. One Mark. So if you skip a question sure you may drop that "one mark" but in return you gain 5 marks of easier questions later on because you skipped it and sacrificed that mark. I hope that's clear enough. So don't feel bad or worried cause you skipped a question.
If you want a general marker of what to expect. The numerical reasoning and verbal reasoning last year was pretty cooked. in the sense that speed was not in your favour. but I vividly recall being totally unsure about the last 10 questions because of time. I was like many others and didn't realise how important speed was. the questions weren't inherently "hard" I just pondered too long on different questions and didn't understand that "one mark" concept. And then albeit those 10, we can safely assume I may have dropped AT LEAST 5 in the rest of the paper just from general mistakes.
while this was a year ago, that's legit a 45/60 (maybe on the lower end and a bit lenient), that still got me a superior (highest band). The tests are pretty cooked regardless of how good you may be. I think if I approached it different I would've scored much better, but that's in the past and it's calm. BUT DONT BE LIKE ME
Anyways, yuh the notesedu has some pretty good resources, victorian selective school tests, there is a TSS vocabulary sheet for anyone looking to improve vocab and that stuff. Generally just search in google "Selective school Victoria Questions" or "Edutest Practice". Legit do HAST practice or ACER test practice it doesn't matter. The questions may vary but the concepts are the same.
And then for those worrying about the test. don't.
It's really not that big of a decision factor. The test is more of a "barrier of entry". It just "separates" the applicants to make applications easier to review. I mean a school reviewing 500 applications is tedious. But the test can basically categorise the top "some number" and then "prioritise" those applications. This number is still pretty big. BUT DON'T BE DECEIVED. You still have to perform well. But don't think there are "10 spots", I must come top 10 or something. No, it's legit just a precursor to your application. It allows the school to dwindle down the number of applications they have to look at. So just perform relatively good and let your application speak for itself.
Obviously on the other end of the spectrum, you can look to perform EXCEPTIONAL in the test and stand as an outlier to the school. but if you can do that, props to you, I have nothing to say. have fun at ruse cuh.
aight that's enough yapping. good luck guys
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do you have any resources u can share?? that would help a lot also how much practice did u do? how many hours per day? how many months prior to the test did u practice also how important are extra circulars............The official edutest tests were extremely useless. Cause they are really easy in comparison to what is given in the test. Its also extremely misleading. You can lose like 2 marks in the edutests practice tests, and this is not a good indicator by any means to what will happen in the real test. This is generally a very honest opinion as someone who sat the tests last year and made all the top 3 schools: baulko, nsb, ruse (which all do edutest). SAVE YOUR MONEY.
So what I would recommend for anyone sitting edutest:
The test is heavily a game of speed and not knowledge and skill. The "skill" is being able to identify the pattern, formula, or whatever related to the question and quickly answering it. Nothing should make you sit there and just ponder for 1 min, the questions aren't designed for that. If you find yourself pondering, just skip and come back.
An important thing I learnt, although it sounds inherently trivial, is that EVERY QUESTION IS WORTH THE SAME. No matter how hard they are they are worth the EXACT same. One Mark. So if you skip a question sure you may drop that "one mark" but in return you gain 5 marks of easier questions later on because you skipped it and sacrificed that mark. I hope that's clear enough. So don't feel bad or worried cause you skipped a question.
If you want a general marker of what to expect. The numerical reasoning and verbal reasoning last year was pretty cooked. in the sense that speed was not in your favour. but I vividly recall being totally unsure about the last 10 questions because of time. I was like many others and didn't realise how important speed was. the questions weren't inherently "hard" I just pondered too long on different questions and didn't understand that "one mark" concept. And then albeit those 10, we can safely assume I may have dropped AT LEAST 5 in the rest of the paper just from general mistakes.
while this was a year ago, that's legit a 45/60 (maybe on the lower end and a bit lenient), that still got me a superior (highest band). The tests are pretty cooked regardless of how good you may be. I think if I approached it different I would've scored much better, but that's in the past and it's calm. BUT DONT BE LIKE ME
Anyways, yuh the notesedu has some pretty good resources, victorian selective school tests, there is a TSS vocabulary sheet for anyone looking to improve vocab and that stuff. Generally just search in google "Selective school Victoria Questions" or "Edutest Practice". Legit do HAST practice or ACER test practice it doesn't matter. The questions may vary but the concepts are the same.
And then for those worrying about the test. don't.
It's really not that big of a decision factor. The test is more of a "barrier of entry". It just "separates" the applicants to make applications easier to review. I mean a school reviewing 500 applications is tedious. But the test can basically categorise the top "some number" and then "prioritise" those applications. This number is still pretty big. BUT DON'T BE DECEIVED. You still have to perform well. But don't think there are "10 spots", I must come top 10 or something. No, it's legit just a precursor to your application. It allows the school to dwindle down the number of applications they have to look at. So just perform relatively good and let your application speak for itself.
Obviously on the other end of the spectrum, you can look to perform EXCEPTIONAL in the test and stand as an outlier to the school. but if you can do that, props to you, I have nothing to say. have fun at ruse cuh.
aight that's enough yapping. good luck guys
I didn't save any resources to be frank with you. I kinda winged it, I can't lie and I wouldn't recommend that.do you have any resources u can share?? that would help a lot
APOLOGIES FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS AHAHAH
With your questions. my study didn't consist of hours lmao. I wouldn't even say study. I did max like 30 mins in random bursts whenever I felt like it. But that's because I felt confident in MY abilities at the time. And regarding months prior. I think I started a solid 2 weeks or 1 week prior. So don't be like me. But too much practice will never hurt you. Just make sure you don't prioritise it over EVERYTHING else in your life. The test is not that deep so live your life and live with no regrets. If you feel unsure do the extra practise, but it's going to be different for everyone.how much practice did u do? how many hours per day? how many months prior to the test did u practice
Extracurriculars matter a lot. I know so many people who got accepted cause they had good extracurriculars. I mean transfers aren't typically the TOP of the year group they go in every year lmao. which might surprise some people. they are usually like mid to bottom. not necessarily, because they struggle but because they aren't the best in transfers in the first place. there are obviously determined transfers who move to aim to be at the top (which I implore you to be like one of them), but these transfers usually just get in cause of their extracurriculars. I mean in reality everyone to the school seems academically competent (which they aren't always), but most of these schools are very self-centred in the way that they think transfers will not be better than their students. I remember sitting down for my interview. And all the principal said was "how are you going to cope with these smart kids", "will you be able to cope with the environment". but i legit knew everyone in that grade and it was safe to say that some of them were a bit special.also how important are extra circulars............